This isn’t true. More-so, dealing with her didn’t have to involve the current situation. So I’d say it is doubly false.
I can posit alternate scenarios I find more palatable if you really want. But long story short, this was hardly the best way to deal with her story, assuming it must be dealt with anyway.
Also not my position, so that’s good.
I don’t mark division on what people dislike as a particular high point of merit.
Yeah, maybe… But that’s not what happened, and this is not our out story nor are these our characters. I am sure there are people think Lord of the Rings could have been better too.
Ah, should have said this earlier, always good to figure out whom I shouldn’t engage with.
It could! It could have been SO MUCH less racist.
Nelf players have been complaining since Vanilla… As one of those people, take my word for it when I say that it could be worse for you.
But… you ARE unhappy, are you not?
And not a crybaby, for being unhappy with the story you are paying to take part in?
No silly, only horde fans are crybabies because they don’t deserve a good story, and I do, because reasons/
I have been unhappy for 14 years. But the story is what it is… It’s not MY story. I don’t get to decide what the story is. I don’t get to decide what is and is not true to a character that isn’t mine. I don’t get to decide what to do with that characters. It’s blizzard’s story, and their creative license will always trump your approval.
I’m just curious, how often, in those 14 years, have you been required, in a core storyline, to do something you found morally repulsive? To actually take part, rather than watch Blizzard’s characters do, something disgusting or unfathomable?
I don’t doubt that it’s happened, but I’d be astonished if the number were very high.
In WoW? I am sure there is something but nothing that I can recall. However, there are plenty of other narratively driven games that do that. Witcher games, Knights of the Old Republic, so forth. It’s nothing new, and sometimes necessary for a good story.
I am expecting the Night Elves to have their vengeance, but I what I believe to be more likely is that Night Elves will stalemate in Darkshore only to be immediately forgotten, which is pretty typical and worse than if they made me doing something morally wrong.
The Witcher games are Geralt’s story, not yours; you’re just experiencing Jaskier’s telling of it, and all of the repulsive choices are just that: choices. In fact, the Witcher is a great example of genuine moral greyness, in that even well-intentioned actions can have unintended results. For all the people he’s killed, you can count on one hand the number of times where it was even arguably murder.
KOTOR, you could always choose not to eat the space kitten.
When is the last time you were compelled, on a character you created, to do something evil, with no recourse or alternatives?
When were you? You could always not do it. No one forced you.
I think Kirango meant “No option other than not to play the game.”
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I’d debated with myself whether to include "under threat of being written out of the plot or cutscened into having it happen anyway.
“No,” I’d decided. “I’ll give them some credit.”
Wrathgate.
Stonetalon.
Domination Point.
Darkshore.
Every graveyard and shipwreck in Kul Tiras.
Upcoming: Darkshore(again)
Some of those had payoffs, but to get to them, you, the player, HAD to get your hands dirty in a way that most of my characters would have outright refused to.
It doesn’t have to be someone’s own story for them to criticize it. Comparing Warcraft’s story to Lord of the Rings speaks volumes to the level of apologetics here.
It’s honestly a more interesting story. The worldbuilding is weaker, but actually easier to engage with.
Tolkein couldn’t write fight scenes or dialogue, but WoW’s lore writers can’t keep track of how their decisions fit into the world they’re building.
I mean, this has been a reoccurring theme since Wrath and you still play Horde? Maybe you just don’t identify with the faction.
Then criticize it legitimately. But saying “This isn’t the story I wanted” isn’t a criticism, it’s just whining.
Blizzard games or in general?
I guess not very often. If we’re expanding to non-Blizzard games one that stands out for me is Mass Effect 3 and the starbrat choices >< Still love that game tho! Might even do another Engineer playthrough soon tbh =P
As for WoW, I guess the Death Knight starting zone and killing your Argent Dawn friend. But the buildup and later payoff for that was pretty cool though so don’t know if that’s a good example.
I’d say most of the criticism I see is fair.
Sure it is, as a consumer. On a purely literary level it is also fine if backed with why one also thinks what they want is good.
No, you should reread A Good War and stop confusing people.
The plan was to invade and crush the Night Elves spirit by killing their leader. The plan was amended when that last part failed.