The fact that players consider Mythic+15 casual is a clear indicator of how far out of whack perceptions have gotten. Again, timed content is not casual.
Because losing all my sanity near the end of a vision while I go AFK to deal with a family emergency is totally casual. Again, timed content is not casual.
You got me. According to https://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings/real/1/475/
Arcane Mage in 475 gear - 66.8K DPS
Fury Warrior in 445 gear - 28.5K DPS
So you’re right. It’s a mere 232% discrepancy. Everything’s totally, cool then!
Who defines that M+ in its entirety is not content for casuals? Cause as far as I’m concerned it’s for everybody. Casuals all the way to Hardcore players.
How long did you go afk for? I have gone afk like 5mins in a 5 mask and been able to hop back in and still clear. That’s fairly casual. (And I’m on the “casuals deserve awesome gear” side of things).
Also, people still use Noxxic? I thought that was really old washed up stats that no one really paid attention to because it isn’t accurate. Honest question, as I don’t know, and have not used it in some time after hearing such.
And you can go back in and try again. You kept touting dungeons in Visions. Go find a group then that can finish the vision for you then. If you have a real family emergency and you still care about loot, then you don’t have your priorities correct.
You just compared two different classes/specs… and you used Noxxic? Hahaha. How bad are you at this?
There are these things called “guilds” that allow you to co-ordinate with other players if it is an issue with time tables.
On the other hand, if you’re issue is that you can’t figure out raid mechanics, then the solution for you is to read the guides, watch youtube tutorials and do the fights until you get them down.
If on the other hand you are too much of a spastic shortbus that you literally can not do raid mechanics at any level then “alternative paths” will not be viable for you since you don’t have the ability to complete said content.
And as me and other people have pointed out, there are a plethora of ways to get quality gear without ever entering a raid, and besides that casual players really don’t need top end gear since they aren’t pushing hard content.
Like, if all folks want to do is low keys, world quests and farming then there really is no need for anything beyond the equivelant of 8.3’s 440.
I’d just like to see crafting become a viable form of gearing, particularly over the lifetime of the expansion. It doesn’t have to be the best gear and they could limit it with cooldowns or whatever to keep it in line with the gear progression of raiders.
Also ~and this really needs to be pointed out~ Mythic raiding isn’t fun. It’s hard work where you are basically pushing your face into a wall for weeks until the wall moves and you and your raid team move onto the next wall and repeat the process until you get your beyond achievment.
It is a brutal, uncompromizing affair where you will spend thousands of gold per week on repairs, pots and food so that you can prog. And RNGesus being the capricious prick that he is you will get no loot at all.
So why in the hell would I push Mythic if some homp who just logs on for 4 hours a week can get the same rewards?
This is your opinion only, I find Mythic raiding very fun and I enjoy the slow burn of bosses and overcoming an obstacle/challenge with a group of people I enjoy the company of.