Every ability in the game should come with a counter

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Not saying every class should have every counter, but something like Pal bubble is a great example, it’s a very powerful defensive cd but it has a counter which is Mass Dispel (dunno if Wars still have shattering throw but that should exist too).

Right now there is only one real cd that still has ZERO counters, Rogue Vanish. If they hit that button, they escape. Combo that with CloS and it’s 100% live.

Rogue stealth/vanish needs counters and instead of adding some to it, they nerfed Spectral Sight to 1.5m cd down from 30s making Stealth indirectly even stronger.

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You look like Doug Dimmadome

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But then you mention…

So it has at least one, albeit apparently not a very good one. There is also Hunters with Track Hidden.

So, not exactly worthy of “ZERO” in capital letters.

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Except if you played DH for 10 seconds you’d know spec sight isn’t a counter for Vanish…

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But it is. It allows you to see stealthed units. You can even put the point into Lost in Darkness so that it lasts for 6 seconds after attacking or being attacked.

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The counter to vanish is that’s a 2v3 for a little while.

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I thought that was Shadowy Duel.

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No shadowy duel makes it a 1v1 and a 2v2.

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Yeah, you’re right. I’m just jaded.

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I agree buff rogues

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Crazy to me that you can’t ground shadowy duel when shadows are literally on the ground

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Someone should tell Tren and Mvq that they aren’t playing DH right by not using spec sight to go after a Rog when they vanish mid game. 1400 rated Hirav over here gonna teach them.

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Hunters Mark and Flare.

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What a ridiculous statement.

You said that stealth has “ZERO” counters, yet also mention a counter.

And I agree, it has counters. It may not be the best action, but it is possible.

Ratings mean nothing. And naming your favorite streamers means nothing too.

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Dunno if you trolling at this point, but for the 3rd time - Vanish does not equal Stealth. You can’t spectral sight someone out of vanish my guy.

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You said this, yes?

And the Vanish tool tip says this…

“Allows you to vanish from sight, entering stealth while in combat.”

Does it not?

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Reading is hard.

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Oh, so you didn’t say what I quoted?

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You can read it all you want, it’s incorrect.

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