Dude this is devastating. I’m finally healing a couple of dungeons here and there which I’ve been reluctant because of the EF removal and i was right to be fearful. It feels so bad. I have literally gone to hit thunder focus tea to pair with ef and then realize i have to pick a diff spell on the fly that isn’t an aoe spell which is what i need at that moment. I cant understand why they thought this would be in any way a good idea. Especially looking into it a bit and everyone and their mother said please don’t take it out. I really hope this gets fixed. I’ve been playing monk for 6 years and this honestly almost ruins it for me. Completely ruins my flow. I’m really at a loss. Anyway just though i should vent about it a bit since i almost cried every time i hit tft.
I want it back too, the spec feels 100% different with it. It’d pair so nice with fistweaver cause you wouldn’t need to change target to AoE heal. The spec does not seem to flow well to me.
I can definitely understand people missing part of the toolkit they are used to for MW. However, I am enjoying how it feels like the old uplift playstyle somewhat. I’m sure as we get into things and some more tuning happens, we will be able to judge it more. It is a big change and these things take time, but blizzard rarely reverses course so we will have to understand the new playstyle.
It doesn’t feel like any old kit to me, but I might have missed it as I took some breaks. Channeled movement soothing mist was a fun playstyle, then essence font heavy. I feel like I went from a unique channeled style healer with lots of mobilities but prone to interrupt (in pvp) to a pure melee (mostly) single target healer
the main issue in my opinion is that we literally have no go to aoe heal now…removing essence font would be like removing prayer of healing or wild growth. I also dont fistweave so for me essence font being removed destroys the castweaving build.
I personally think mw has never felt better, it flows so well at least in the content I have done. Whoever is currently in charge of mw is doing a great job. 10/10
They should add this back to the game :3
I dont mind the loss of EF. Conduit is a fun ability. I just wish I had more haste items. Going from 30% haste to 6% haste after questing feels bad.
This post brought to you by the 100 Posts A Day Essence Font Removal Whining Committee.
sorry I’m upset that a huge part of the playstyle and talent tree i built myself for the last 6 years no longer exists? I’m sure you’ve never chosen your own talent points your entire life so you wouldn’t get it. I understand.
If that many people are whining then it’s a good indicator the change is not fun for a lot of people, no?
But in what way is your playstyle mutually exclusive from Essence Font?
Just because it satisfies your playstyle doesn’t equate to good design.
Good design means multiple viable
Options and also having different builds to play in different types of scenarios
Having the same build for everything = bad design
Who uses essence font in 5 man content? All it was good for was a quick AT in case u messed up faeline. This just exposed u as a terrible MW
Crit/Vers TFT → Upwelling → EF
Very usable. Fairly impactful.
And based on your previous posts I’ve seen in my short time here, you really should self-evaluate before you judge others, because wew lad.
I find the playstyle more fluid now. Even running 3k+ I only really used EF if i didnt get a Stomp reset in good time.
RM + Vivify can easily heal up a group from 50% then you go back to DPS.
With the heroic Conduit Talent now, thats a huge heal for “uh oh” moments.
Not having to channel it in dungeons/raids anymore feels really good. In m+ it was only really good as a setup for double mastery procs. Fistweaving feels more fluid now that I don’t have to worry about channeling EF anymore. Also there are multiple play styles lol, you can cast or fistweave and both are perfectly fine so idk why you are talking about there.
I healed a couple heroics last night and I dearly missed EF. As stated by OP, I would always pair Thunder Focus with it, just to quickly channel it out, maybe not a ton of healing but also just a nice little HoT. It was a fun ability that you could use while moving which was great. You could use it both Fistweaving and Mistweaving. I really don’t understand the reasoning behind removing it.
i find that using tft on RenM or RSK or even EnvM with the new proc (if your EnvM is glowing with the conduit tree, you’re going to get a juicy shield on everyone (i think it works with chi haromy as well, but don’t quote me on that)) which is an instant EnvM that puts a shield on all 5 party members. between your celestials, veil of pride sheilun’s being a ~45 sec CD full heal on the party, conduit of the celestials channel basically being a double upwelling EF + it does damage + we can use mobility during the channel… i mean, you have a ton of options. that’s not even counting build diversity between fist & soom weavers. nor revival. as a fistweaver, you have chi ji, BoK cleave in your Stomp, stomp itself and spinning crane kick healing. we have a buttload of AoE triage. i’ve been doing a weird soom/fist hybrid build and really enjoy it. i tried it on beta and i am trying it in heroics and we’re like giga thanos chain pulling stuff in my guild groups already. i will link it at the bottom of this post as an import code. it basically is a soomweaving build in which you AoE heal with jade statue as you approach > get RenM to 0 charges > Soomweave combo > swap target > EnvM & Viv (it will MOVE your soom for you!!) and get a RSK here or there as i can! i think MW is possibly the best it’s ever been minus it being grossly overtuned in S4 shadowlands, but the play pattern is for sure both more balanceable, less degenerate and a happy marriage of both fistweaving and soomweaving! perfectly BALANCED as all monk things should be :))))
p.s. i think ancient teachings isn’t healing for enough and we do a lil less damage than i would like, but overall we’re kind of big chillin’
v- talents -v
C4QAUXY49giSj4C5Wpk6qnLyQAAAAAAAAAGzCzsMAmxM2Y2mlZbMLWmlllZmlFMTzMzYhZYGgZxMzwsxYYWMBAAAAABYxyssMbzMTQAAbA
They gave you a shorter ranged essence font (basically) with Celestial Conduit.
I’d like to see a move away from Sheilun’s as well. It’s time for a new talent to try out.
There have been a few times where the whole group gets down to ~30% and I find it difficult to bring everyone back up. We have Sheliun/ChiJi and Conduit(if specced) to rotate through but even those seem to barely move the bars in a crisis. On demand healing in general feels non-existent atm.
Perhaps this is similar to how other healers are doing but I cant comment since I don’t have any leveled atm.