Interesting…
Actually the forums are the place to petition for the removal of an aspect of the game that is undesirable. The petition itself opens the floor for perhaps a constructive alternative, which people have endeavored to do, however it is met with ignorance.
If we review your posts, any thread or posts that contradict your perspective, you greet with personal attacks? look at the above statement you made and applying the term “idiocy”, how constructive is that?.. There are endless examples of you using the exact same methods towards others, and if anything doesn’t belong in the forums it’s this type of behavior.
Examples of solutions:
Blacklisting - Oh no can’t have that
Remove from Random Queue - Oh know can’t have that
FIx the BG - Oh no can’t have that
The only solution i have seen offered by your community (which is a huge minority by comparison in this forum) is telling people to stop joing the random queue and queue specifics. So we should appease a small group at the expense of the others. However, i have already covered this and manually queuing is the same thing as Blacklisting without the rewards… I wish the people would do this and then you can say farewell to Ashran.
And any suggestion that people make is immediately received by a small group that expressed nothing more than a disdain, not just towards the post, but towards the poster themselves. You don’t want constructive debates that would lead to a mutually acceptable solution. You want it your way because that is the only way.
If your only counter arguments are to call people names, ridicule and insult people directly or through inference than you have absolutely no credibility.
Your whole post is entirely hypocritical.
Personally i’m tired of trying to find a compromise and just remove it altogether.
Wrong.
You can petition for the removal of something if it is bad design. You cannot petition for the removal of something just because you don’t like it.
“but da horde always win WG” is not bad design, it is faction dominance. There are some things wrong with WG, but getting rekt by the opposing faction is not one of them.
I greet idiocy with hostility, regardless of my perspective.
Blacklisting solves nothing except personal preference and introduces it’s own host of problems.
Removal is idiocy.
Fixing the BG - I’ve already said, multiple times, including in this thread, that fixing BGs is how we should be approaching BG flaws. But I am not surprised that you either ignored this or completely overlooked it.
Majority does not equate to intelligent or logical. I’ve said this before.
You never wanted a compromise. Every post you’ve made is screeching for removals and blacklisting. The only times you mentioned anything aside from those two actions is when I’ve pushed you to it. But right, we’re the ones who think our way is the only way
That was my initial thought and I ended up cutting the resolution down and turning the graphics on 1. Nothing changed on the lag end. I have a somewhat fancy computer rn though.
Well, i was just reviewing the thread and up until Post 25, nobody was hating on anyone,maybe the opinions but there was no personal attacks until Herc stepped in and decided to use an insult “Potato Level Logic”, which clearly infers that anyone who shares the opinion of blacklisting and / or removal has the intelligence of a potato…I mean seems harmless but when the counter arguments are always full of this type of behavior then who’s hating on who? This is when the threads fall apart for the most right after someone makes it personal. Nothing constructive comes from insults, ridicule, condescension etc.
If this community who does not want blacklisting and / or removal of a BG, offers a better solution, one that works, then by all means (other than the typical queue specifics solution, this one has been beat to death, there is no benefit for anyone)
For instance Ashran to make Ashran Viable as a BG, it needs to diverge the mob not converge it. Add some PVP objectives (anything other than the street fight is PVE) where these objectives influence the game. I don’t have the specific answer but in my opinion this is where it would have to go. But ideas have been asserted but there’s a small group in here that no matter what you suggest will not entertain any alternate possibilities, therefore leaving the majority in here just saying get rid of it or bring back blacklisting.
Personally, i identify a problem and look for viable solutions…has nothing to do with ANTI or Pro Blizz. In Fact in another thread i am defending an implementation of an architecture by Blizz in Classic, called “Layering” where many people are hating on it.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck…
Anyway, while you’re right that they are potatoes, that’s not what the post was implying. The post is implying that the person is telling others that they are ignoring issues while he himself is ignoring the issues, aka potato level logic.
“You guys can’t tell us that blacklisting isn’t a viable option! Oh by the way your suggestion of specific queues is not allowed!”
Sigh. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck…
What has been asserted?
Every time you’ve been asked you to post any suggestion other than blacklists and removals you dodge it with the usual “lol herc ur meen xD” posts and backpedal away.
Here’s an ideal. You get 1 blacklist when you win 2 Random BG’s and 2 Epic BG’s and you are capped out for the week. you get 2 blacklist when you do the same for your next toon and so on It resets each week .
WG-Suggestion
No team can have more than 5 vehicles at one time that would make defending the vehicles an objected you would get a lot more player vs player that way.
Ashran-Suggestion
Blizzard needs to spend some of the millions that they’re making update their equipment. I can play most any game out there with high settings or better, but on Wow in Ashran have to turn all my settings down to low And still lag just a little bit.
I just proposed a concept - thats how ideas and solutons are for formulated
Again lol!
Funny i keep saying over and over, just to indulge your group, everyone queue specifics… And I will reiterate, if people do then enjoy it while it lasts because it won’t last long… As for logic goes, can’t say this is logical at all and good for the game.
Here’s how logic works"
I Like Wintergrasp
Many appear to be Opposed to it
Conclude that it really does seem that People Don’t like it
Take the time to understand why they Oppose
Provide potential solutions (I’m the minority, it is my job to effectively defend it)
Ultimately accept that if the greater majority of people do not want it then give them method to Opt out.
Solutions:
Specific Queuing? - Nope - Never would see it and queue times would be ridiculous, as being suggested regarding “Blacklisting”.
Force it on people? Nope - i don’t want to be in a BG that people just AFK or leave. ruin the experience completely.
Possibly improve the BG? could work - Best option
Remove it from the queue - Ok, not ideal, my Queue times for it would skyrocket if I want to play, but at least I could and I would be grouped with people who also want to play it.
Unfortunately Logic doesn’t always favor your opinion, and your opinion doesn’t get to dictate what is logical.
People who are Logical don’t need to call people names to sound logical. It exemplifies the definition of contradictory.
computer ya [expletive] [derogatory noun].”
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