Enjoy doing m+ for your gear

Is that a joke? My friends are officers in a Mythic Guild, already told their people they have to be AT LEAST 210 to raid on Mythic night.

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i don’t know where the hell you are getting that from. Or who has that kind of requirement. - theres a lot of my friend here.

Mythic raiding guilds that actually want to do content. What?

would you mind sharing? i could use some after reading this conquest update…

What guild is he in.

Holy crap can we please just go back to the system we had in place in BC?

I doubt it. Did people even +15 first few weeks in BFA? People are really under-estimating M+ difficulty becuase they were smashing it at the end of BFA.

M+ difficulty at the beginning of the xpac is nothing like the end of it. I dont think many people are gonna be banging out +15’s like nothing first few weeks of this expansion. I personally remember at the start of BFA people racing like 16-18s as teams and the top teams in the world and it wasnt in the first couple weeks, either. And these were teams; they werent your average PvPer hitting up LFG just trying to gear. People are really, really underestimating M+ difficulty just because its “LuLz PvE” and they were destroying them at the end of BFA.

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Split Runs Herioc + Mythic+ clears.

Plus a pushed back to Wed night Mythic raid, for a second Run of Herioc.

What guild is he in, you still haven’t answered.

Lets see hmm, to complete the vault for mythic + you need to do 10 dungeons lets say you find mostly 7s and 8s that give 200 ilvl end of dungeon rewards. You get 3 maybe 4 items out of that. Even just doing pleb 5s give 194 gear and 210 end of week with a chance at weapons.

HOW IS PVP EVEN CLOSE TO THIS YOU CAN’T EVEN BUY A PAIR OF GLOVES 1ST WEEK LOL WTF BLIZZ ARE YOU DOING??? oh lOoK At mY 183 PvP gEaR Hur Der. Oh but i can upgrade it to 197 after 300 bg wins, kekw.

Because its not my place to oust him or his guild, for you to attack them for your assumed steep standards.

Im not a raider, I didnt think that was steep though.

They also remove from raid team anyone that parses below 90 on any fight.

I had assumed that was pretty usual for Mythic guilds?

2 Herioc splits, M+ runs, Great Vault 226 from M+.

And you think a 210 ilvl from that is crazy? Then your on something, because I dont find that impossible.

Could be as said, people are making assumptions based on BFA, they may have to adjust that plan. IDK, just told me their plans in passing.

I think your assuming that everyone sits on the forum all day and isnt doing M+ for 14 hours a day. Im here to tell you, there is alot of peope that do the later.

Hmmmmmm - i’m not here to attack anyone i just don’t think your ‘friend’ exists.

They also remove from raid team anyone that parses below 90 on any fight.

what, AHAHA, god forbid someone has to do a mechanic thats stops dps. Oh no looks like you did your job but your out of the raid team cause you did a 89.

I had assumed that was pretty usual for Mythic guilds?

What, no? you realise 90 is 90th percentile right? Hell rip the guy on the world first kill who parse below the other guy of the same spec cause he just parsed grey.

2 Herioc splits, M+ runs, Great Vault 226 from M+.

1.5 + 1.5 is 3 pieces of gear from the heroic runs.

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2 Herioc raids, which have a higher drop than Mythic Raid, dont they? Split runs.

M+ run your face off.

Buy BOEs if you need (They already have 190s)

Great Vault reward.

Doesnt seem that outrageous to me.

The parse thing I kind of WTFed about myself when I heard it, but again im not a mythic raider, so IDK. There may be special circumstances involved in that, with situations like you said.

The only reason I know the parse thing is another mutal friend of ours, had his buddy removed from the team for parsing high 80s twice, and I said WTF about that too, but I am not a CE raider, so I stay out of it.

They are def 1%ers tho.

And AFAIK, they are going for Server 1st on a Top 5 server, so that may be why they are pushing so crazy. They haven’t got Server 1st before AFAIK, so probably wont make it.

Honestly, I dont even know if you will end with 3-4 pieces of gear. One reason, is those 10 you do, may not all be timed. Thats 1 piece of gear for an entire party. I bet they wont. And as far as I can tell, 2 pieces of gear timed.

I feel like you guys forget how tough these can be at the beginning of the Xpac; especially if you are pugging them.

Theres a chance, you will do all 10, and maybe have 0-1 pieces of gear. Thats what Blizzard wants now. Especially if you are shooting for +7-8’s only week 1. They arent super easy or fast week 1/2 of the xpac.

I dont think you guys realize how bad they nerfed M+, too. Its one of the reasons I feel like this Xpac is gonna fall off a cliff playerbase wise, compared to most. M+ gutted, WQ and all casual systems gutted/boring, PvP in shambles, Raid or Die mentality and evne nerfed raid gear. I honestly feel like this xpac is gonna take huge hits to its playerbase in a month or 2 time, and they they will go back in and change stuff, a day late and dollar short.

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BE HAPPY GUYS

2 Herioc raids, which have a higher drop than Mythic Raid, dont they? Split runs.

Same drop rate. Split runs don’t matter unless its a world first guild because your not armour stacking enough in most cases. but that would narrow down your friends guild to like top 100 at the very least. also +3 pieces of loot.

M+ run your face off.

I would have like 12 hours if i wasn’t working on raid release to spam mythic plus. Even assuming 30 minutes per dungeon, thats only 24 dungeons that i can run not including travel time etc that i would be able to run before raid starts. 2 pieces per dungeon assuming we somehow time every dungeon we do. thats a very unlikely 48 pieces of loot we can use. now we are also just going to assume that it was all completed at +15 somehow as well. 48/5 is 9.6 pieces of loot.

Buy BOEs if you need (They already have 190s)

Well most on the AH are 190 and useless come mythic week. so we can ignore those. Other ones will go for millions of gold. So i’d say for most people these aren’t feasible. so +0.5 pieces of loot.

Great Vault reward.

+1 since you will get a 15 done in time.

So we are looking at 14 pieces of gear by the time the raid opens to cover our 15 slots assuming we have no duplicates and we somehow get 24 timed mythic plus dungeons done before raid opens.

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There we go. That makes weapons much more competitive to obtain for both.

There is BOEs in the raid, that will be 213.

You also ignored, or dazed over the 213 herioc loot.

i didn’t, you get 3 pieces.

Bro they nerfed pve gear drops too its only 3 pieces per boss and 1 at the end of a m+ clear. The fastest way to gear has always been doing both pvp and pve.