Enjoy doing m+ for your gear

Stop what? Everyone here is just as delusional as i am.

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We CURRENTLY are using 184 gear over 171 gear. No, the 197 honor gear isn’t “magically” going to be better then the 210 m+ gear.

Your point is about as irrelevant as they come. They can trade loot. Very little loot goes to waste in the first ten to fifteen weeks. Only things I ever remember being disenchanted or vendored pre-10 weeks were bad trinkets that no one wanted.

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Edit: okay it is 1800 now, much better, still crappy tho.

You don’t have class stacking of one armour type. So you maybe have 3-4-5 people who can trade you in raid. So doesn’t that make numbers worse when you look at it that way

1h is 1350, 2h 1800. Jewelery + trinkets is 525, and main stat pieces are 750-875 depending on the piece. You have outdated numbers.

Imo the system is trash only because of the weapon achievement. Rest of it is pretty good to me. I’m also not hardcore sooooo.

But the cap seems decent for everything outside of the 5000 required for weapon. And we have vault and legendary. If they remove the stupid 5000 requirement I’m okay with it.

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Its not better right now, I am in 171 PVP gear, and same class 184 NEVER RATED IN THEIR LIVES, players eat me alive.

I’m trying REALLY hard right now to not resort to inappropriate humor to cope with this.

4 weeks for a weapon is good for you?

While Raid drops a weapon token that is tradeable and exchangeable for you choice of weapon?

OKAY.

That’s my point. M+ will dominate pvp gear until you can finally after 3 months get geared out.

I said everything besides the weapon. Weapon is dooodoo.

Ya but at the end of that 3 months, you need to be duelist to upgrade to 226.

So you have to fight geared people, to get duelist to fight them with gear = to the gear they already have…

4 weeks for a 226 weapon is fine?

Glad I bought alcohol before this announcement.

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Dude, the good guilds all class stack the good stuff. Even my horrible US 200 guild was class stacking the starts of the raid. Good guilds also immediately after a boss is done being progressed on start to build optimal loot paths for the rest of the raid. Good example would be Skitra and Maut in Ny’alotha where we would run 12 casters and a DH for our damage composition to try to get Trinkets and Azerite shared as soon as possible to make bosses deeper in the raid easier to progress on. I think on Vexiona since it had a lot of the BIS melee azerite we’d run 8 or 9 melee with a couple of mages and locks to fill out the composition.
Just by virtue of being able to trade the loot they will have ilvls so much higher than ours if this 550 cap stays here.

Your not getting a 226 weapon, unless your duelist.

Which is going to be hard to get, when your fighting people with 226 already gear to get said duelist.

But go ahead, call me a pessimist and tell me I am wrong again, just like they did when I said this exact thing was going to happen, and it just did.

Ya but at the end of that 3 months, you need to be duelist to upgrade to 226.
So you have to fight geared people, to get duelist to fight them with gear = to the gear they already have

99% of people are not full clearing mythic raids in 4 weeks. i hope you understand that.

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Right we agree. Its trash and its spam raids m+ while capping pvp to sloooowly get pvp gear.

Completely defeating the purpose of pvp vendors.

if your not duelist what are you doing, like its a low bar to be duelist

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4 weeks for what? You have to earn 5k conquest to buy a weapon…

Also there is more people that have 10/10 mythic by month 2 then there is duelists.

Cute that you think Duelist make up a large part of the community tho.