Enhancement pvp

How are Enh shams currently surviving in pvp? Anytime I try to que solo shuffle all my MS gets dumped into healing and I am still dying all game to classes like DH, ww, dk, feral, etc. It seems like these melee can run at me with very little to punish. My dam very low because it seems like I cant even afford to use MS for damage more than 2-3 times per round

3 Likes

We were A tier last tuesday were now B tier , don’t try to push it’s useless if you get to 1800 with ENH its like if you did 2400 with DH , same challenge.

2 Likes

BcQAfcj78nJtvjmejSqe5Zhm9USSCCEhkkEkkIJJAAAAAAAAAAAAAUyBCRQiQ0ISTSSBBQSIpA

Earth Elemental, Earth Shield, Healing Stream Totem, Ancestral Guidance, 1pt Focused Insight, Brimming with Life, 1 pt Refreshing Waters.

Cast both Lighting and Earth Shield on yourself (and earth on a teammate) at start. Flame shock, Earth Ele, Hstream, and Windfury Totem should be dropped by the time you connect with your first target. Make sure you gauge when you wall vs when you can survive with a full-pump healing surge.

When you run in, everyone pops their CD’s right? Static Field them in place and kick rocks for a few seconds. Or Earthgrab and kick rocks, either way but not both. Cap totem is okay if your team isn’t stun oriented, if you have a rogue they’re gonna be pissed if you use cap totem.

If you’re up against a demo, WW, or BM hunter, save earthgrab for when they pop their minions. Then earthgrab and laugh while their burst is entirely negated. Monks can break their visions free, so be ready to ghost wolf and kite it out for a few seconds.

That’s how you survive the first go, after that it becomes a game of whether or not your healer can keep you alive potentially while your wall and/or trinket may be down. You HAVE to play like a rat, ghost wolf, and LOS sometimes. It sucks, but if your teammate is doing pressure then keep your opponents slowed and kite it out.

I float between 1700-1750 in solo shuffle, best 1794. Most of the better enh are running the Thunderstorm/Lightning Lasso build. I can tell you confidently that until you’ve hit an MMR where healers realize they can dispell some CC’s, you’re just going to die if you play that way and thus you need the survivability of your healing stream and Ancestral Guidance.

1 Like

i was 2090 ENH i rage quit some game and quited got down to 1700 lol no point climbing it up with those stupid azz nerf.

2 Likes

Just got 1.8, didnt play it really pre nerf but man its rough. Im running Ancestral, swirling currents, and focused insight so I have much more healing. Dam still not great but it lets me survive a bit better.

Ya I ran that a build when I was getting train by 2 melee , Fury/DH.

I mean I got 1800 on my SP easily and I never played shadowpriest.

I played ENH every XPAC , I’m way more better on ENH than on my SP , but still playing both you can tell that SP is S tier and ENH is B tier.

Fixed that for you.

3 Likes

I seem to reliably sit at about 1950, post nerfs. So, here’s my thoughts:

  • Primordial Wave is a dead talent. Don’t take that, the investment is too great.
  • The first 10 seconds of a fight is not you fighting. It is you tanking. You should be in Ghost Wolf, running Spirit Wolf, with Earth Elemental out. You can survive the majority of the burst in the game with your -20% DMG, +15% Max HP, and +100,000 HP steroid in Health Trinket.
  • Health Trinket is mandatory for Enhancement.
  • If fighting two heavy physical damage dealers, run Ethereal Form. Astral Shift simply will not cut it, and Ethereal Form is a 45 second cooldown when talented into. It is a flat out immune. It has saved my butt countlessly from Fury Warrior / WW, Fury Warrior / DH (still blocks a lot of DH damage, not all ofc), which are nightmares for us to play into atm.

Absorb their burst, then hit back when they’re out of juice. The thing that helps me the most is knowing that when you Ascend, you need to be the top dog. Your windstrikes, with Thorim, are not tankable. They demand a defensive cooldown. So I will pummel a target with Wind Strike until I force a defensive, then immediate swap to Healer or other DPS, often forcing a kill. If you are lucky enough to get Doom Winds and Ascendance after they use a defensive, you’re 90% going to win that round.

This is the build I use:

BcQAfcj78nJtvjmejSqe5Zhm9USSCCJRIJRQSiDkkAAAAAAAAAAAAAQJHARQiUENSSjk0IBtEgkG

I often swap out Totemic Recall for Curse Cleansing if I’m fighting Warlocks, because they have a curse that makes your crit chance go to like, 0% or something for 15 seconds.

1 Like

I remember you were telling me that you are fine. What happened I’m always top I do not have any issues with enh. Shaman is great and stuff. What happened to I enjoy enh and bla bla bla

last nerf Tuesday killed the cannon , class was A tier now it’s B tier.

Oh shut the f up it was always thrash from the beginning

I got 2090 in solo shuffle in 1 week, wasn’t bad.

And you could just pick sp and be 2100 in day one xD

haha ya im 1800 on my SP but i suck never played the class , its what im playing RN while shaman sucks.

Or you know my favorite. “You just do not know how to play shaman” :rofl: classic and now they all. Yuk shamans def is suck what are those nerfs and so on… :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I knew everything from the beginning

reason is because of community doesn’t accept to die in pvp by one shot
so they nerf all CANON from ENH WW ROG etc making all BURST class useless now , so only war , dh , and consistent damage can compete.

Mark my words coz I’m the real far seer of this forum. Next nerf for elem will be nerf to elemental equilibrium

Ive been using the same build. Ancestral guidance/healing stream totem help a lot for the initial burst. Ideally i try to run away and kite during the damage cds but if you are stuck and pop wolves + ancestral you can stay alive for a short while.

Also, counterstrike totem is underrated in my opinion. At high ratings people will kill it right away sure, but you can get lucky and win a round or two in solo shuffle. So many times i see a fury warrior facerolling and countersrike totem absolutely wrecks them

Of the two builds I saw posted here, I didn’t see Ice Strike taken on either. Is that a poor talent choice for Solo Shuffle? I figured it would give more milage/burst than Crash Lightning, but is that the wrong idea? Why take Crash Lightning?

crash lightning is really good it increase stormstrime damage by 25% the next point to it , and also its a short CD , it’s AEO witch is a GOOD MAELSORM generator.