Granted, I am just a casual player at best. I dont raid super hard, and usually just log in to play some bgs maybe do a few 2s then get ready for the next miserable work day . But ya, shaman since legion has been a miserable experience. Number wise I performed FAR better with enhance in legion -bfa than I did before, that said, it has been WAY less fun than previous expansions. The unique flavor it once had his been pruned out of it and it just feels so poorly designed.
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Thanks for admitting that.
You’re completely wrong.
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Thanks for admitting to everyone you have no idea what an opinion is.
You’re completely wrong.
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I can tell you when your opinion is wrong, based on faulty evidence, which you admitted to having.
Try again.
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Neat, I wasn’t aware I ever admitted to having faulty evidence on Enhance.
Can you show me where?
I’m honestly really curious lol
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I assumed you would only reply if you were the OP on another character.
Are you saying that’s not you?
You’re still wrong about Enhance either way. It plays just fine, but a completely casual player like you wouldn’t know that.
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It’s not me, lol.
Even if it was, he’s literally not capable of being wrong about something like this.
You don’t have to be a raider or PvPer or anything to figure out that you don’t like how something plays after a rework. No matter what you engage with in game, you’re still experiencing it through the class.
lol mate i haven’t played this character seriously since the start of legion. i literally goofed around with friends and facerolled it to glad s1 because enhance was and still is a joke spec now because stormbringer is stupid, among other things.
Whether or not it performs or functions is entirely different from whether or not it’s enjoyable.
Stop making a fool of yourself because you’re mad someone called your precious spec unfun.
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ur bad and it is boring,pruned, and lacks depth entirely
i cant imagine a casual like u would understand that tho
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Anyway yeah for the casual player it may not seem like much although in instanced PvE environments where it lacks the uptime brought by legion abilities like Doomwinds and Asc. procs it’s still more than viable in damage. But I could see how one would find it lacking in open-world content.
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ah man lets just keep talking about how its damage is fine in a thread where the guy explicitly said his numbers are better than they used to be but he doesn’t find the playstyle fun
that’ll convince him he’s wrong and it’s actually a lot of fun
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It’s best not to focus too much on original OP as this thread will devolve into buff windfury and give back 2H anyways
enhance just needs more mechanics that interact with each other and create a scenario that involves either decision making or varying the base priority
set it n forget it wep imbues while stormstrike spamming is boring
and non PP hothand lavalash is never worth pressing unless you’re desperately fighting maelstrom cap during wolves and even if you cap it’s bfa so you dont get punished and you still parse 99% percentile
imo expand on weapon imbues
change lava lash and make it more of a staple
(wod/mop lava lash was such a significant portion of damage and was very impactful)
earthen spike, lava lash dumping, and overcharge from a pvp perspective at least if made more suitable would imo be fun
doomwinds should also come back, at least as a pvp talent and replace thundercharge
obviously it was an extremely powerful button on a 1 minute cd but pushes enhance in the ‘1 min cd based go’ playstyle i personally think is healthiest for the spec in a competitive environment
vs insanely front loaded 3 min cd 1 shot via mop ascendance
or
randomly 1 shotting via stormbringer rng at literally any point in any scenario
big yikes, who said I was trying to convince.
edit: op did “explicitly say” they were doing better damage in legion not worse. If not it’s worded horribly.
OP is right, as a casual player or anyone that doesn’t gear up past a certain point, the spec is gutless and not as fun. However, once your haste and mastery is better the spec becomes much more fun. Endless procs for big damange is fun… for me.
Anyone that complains that the spec isn’t fun because it’s been pruned…THAT’S EVERY CLASS! I’m tired of that argument lol.
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Actully you are completely wrong. Playing enhancement shaman right now is so boring. We used to have so much we could do now we are a poor mans fury warrior. We are not even able to be a poor mans combat rogue, because at least combat rogue was a little fun.
The one thing i want to see returned the one thing is Earth Shock. Give Earth Shock back to Enhancement Shamans. Well that and pvp survivability.
in what way though
do you want it to mirror current elemental earth shock?
do you want it to be a ~ amount of damage with no interaction?
do you want it specifically to bring back the ‘weakened blows’ debuff
what about earthshock do you want back, we’ve had several iterations and none of them are particularly interactive or useful in the current kit
if anything you’d either end up with earthshock being basically just a rock biter clone on a seperate CD
or you’d end up with earthshock just reskinning ‘overcharged’ depending on the direction you wanted to go with it
What I want to see with Earth shock was back when SS would debuff the target to take more nature damage and you popped earth shock to remove the debuffs and deal the nature damage.
Thats what I would like to see but to be honest I always saw Earth Shock as our version of execute. I hated that it was removed.I have seen a lot of the versions of earth shock. Imo that was the best version. To me back then Enhancement felt like battle mages in the fact that we had a good mix of melee and ranged.
a spec plays the same for casual and hard core if some one says other wise they are an idiot and yes you wait around for stormbinger procs for more storm strikes.
its pretty boring and why it needs a rework.
other wise