please give enhance some passive defensives that actually make a difference. we are already starved for globals as it is with 1000 totems . the damage is fine but they just get trained and killed like no tomorrow
I was listening to saul earlier, and heās running the healing build with stormweaver, and reckons healing surges are hitting for about 500k. Slows our damage down, but we still have good burst, but better ( albeit clunky) self healing.
Iām looking forward to testing it out tonight when I get to play.
Edit: So after 2 games of rss, I heal more, but it is SOOOOO clunky to try to use efficiently, its not worth it. You also have to lose static which just sucks to not have. With the buffs that all the other classes got, we really feel like we got a nerf with this patch. I really donāt know what shaman hurt the devs, but they need to stop taking it out on all the players.
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Stormweavers give some healers the breathing room they need and some healers really need it
Iāve been playing with storm weaver for a long time. It has never felt clunky to me, it actually feels smooth and natural but maybe itās just because Iām used to it. Dampening sucks for it but thatās the way it goes.
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Agreed. Iāve been using it for a while as well. Takes some learning but once you master it, becomes insanely good.
I donāt want to, nor am I trying to be rude, but, I canāt see a shaman youāve played in arena enough to have tested the spell. You got to 896 last season, hardly able to put it to the test there.
Yeah, no. It has not been a talent shamans have used at all during DF in arena. The healing output, even with focused insight has been too low to justify using it.
If they changed the way focused insight worked to just the buff without the prerequisite of casting flame shock, it would be far better with the recent buff to healing surge. However having to make sure you cast flame shock before ypu heal is super clunky. It already costs us a throughput point to get, it should just be the buff.
I was hopeful it was going to be good, and in actual arena when youāre commed and coordinated, Iām sure it is, but in rss, with the buffs to all these other classes, it hardly feels like using. Considering we are already global starved, trying to fish in fs casts to maintain a buff for a heal that is clunky feels bad.
Okay soā¦
You used that for the other guy to dismiss his point. I however am a different story. As I am currently in the higher brackets. Especially in 2v2. (At time of Posting I am Rank 2 NA in 2s and Rank 28 in 3s NA for Enhance) I have been exclusively playing Stormweaver. And I am saying the same things Antaris is.
I donāt monitor or track the Focused insight buff. You are flameshocking on CD due to all the dispells going on. Last week (before the healing surge buff) I crit a 652k Healing surge. I most likely had Guardian Spirit at that time (prolly a focused insight buff as well) which helps a ton. But I would regurlary see 450k crits without it (again, likely with an insight buff). That was without the healing surge increase this week. Insight is good because its a trash buff for purge protection on your Earth Shield. Its up constantly cuz healers/dps (rets/DH in particular but WW too, mass dispell too) constantly remove your flame shock. So you constantly have to reapply/spread FS.
I Heal when it makes sense to do so, or if I want to min/max my Stormweaver buffs before generating a second stack. You donāt alter your gameplay around Focused insight. Itās something that works for you in the background.
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I did say it was probably better and worth it in actual arena, that doesnāt surprise me. Iāve just never seen or heard of it being worth using.
As far as it being a background buff that you donāt monitor, i guess that makes sense. I was hyper focused on trying to make sure I was maintaining the buff, often times casting flameshock on a target it was already up on just toget the buff. The games I got to test it in probably werenāt ideal, it was double lock sp one game, and mm dh fury another game. I either spent the entire match getting kited by the opposite team, or getting kited by my own teammate.
It does take a bit to get used to it. I remember doing BGs to get honor gear at the start of the season. And there were a few road encounters where I was 1vX and it felt terrible. Remember thinking, if I could of just spent all my MSW on heals while hitting them with my damage I could of won. But obviously I am not favored to win that so I didnāt let it stop me.
Now that I am better at it, it feels amazing. The spot healing in arena is fantastic. And if you do it right you can get 2 big heals out almost back to back. Allows your healer to sit CC more and prevents you from having to Astral Shift. I hold my wall for extremely long times. Because I know if I have guardian, ES, and randomly a focused insight buff I can heal myself through big enemy CDs long enough for my healer to come out of CC.
One thing you need to be mindful of though. Is that if you have a 10 stack Stormweaver buff and you spend a lets say 7 point ele blast, it will replace your 10 stack with a 7 stack. So you can lose out on healing. But sometime you have to do so to try to make a kill window.
I play blitz. I have already mentioned that in arena with dampening itās not going to be as effective for obvious reasons. Itās a fantastic talent for roaming and going 1v1 with classes that typically would out sustain you.
Oh absolutely. In open world/bgs, its fantastic. And I dont worry about focused insight in those instances because our healing isnāt nerfed. I just find it cumbersome in arena, but, and Iām willing to admit, Iāve been using it wrong and over worrying about focused insight uptime.
Oh wow, thatās lame, thank you for the heads up.
feels good in open world but youāre def not hitting 500ks with a mortal strike.
ive tested it out 250 max 300 crit. really isnāt much when youāve got 2 heavy hitters smacking you .
youāre again losing globals trying to heal instead creating pressure in a fast-paced game already it feels meh and not worth it in higher scaled arena.
Youāll have to coach me. I almost got to 1800 this week in SS and then came crashing down to just above 1600 with some bad games. I use shamanism, stormweaver, and burrow. Iāll set my burst windows up around primal wave so that when I do use primal wave, Iāll strike at least 3 targets for a 32% hast buff (I think) and then use shamanism for an extra buff, but even then I canāt put out enough damage to down a target. Itās hard to hex the healer before that burst window when Iām getting trained as well.
Here, had to update to my main.
A lot of it comes down to your strategy per matchup. Positioning is really key as well. If you are the only melee and itās mugumbala you will prolly be letting your other dps be doing most of the work. You donāt always have to hex healers. If Iām against DHs I tend to hex them instead and root and lasso just to slow them down.
Enhance is something that takes a long to to balance. It honestly feels like every 5 globals you need to reassess your place in the match and off heal/purge/peel/rebuff/run away. Iāve been thinking about making a video guide but idk. Itās a lot of work and I already know people are going to tell me Iām wrong haha.
If you are going up against double melee and you have a caster like warlock or spriest on your team: Its actually better that you run at their healer while your team 2v2s the melee. But still maintaining your ES on your caster being tunneled helps a lot, this is where stormweaver plays a big role. You will need to off heal them constantly with it. But dont sit there and play 2nd healer. Keep the ideas as āspot healsā in your head even if your healer is casting on them. Ive saved SS team mates at 5% HP with a spot heal doing that. Tossing your root totem on the dps, keeping at least 1 FS on them as well. Hexxing the dps that is safest for you to do so. (wont reflect or immune it on their end). Its really important that you dont end up getting cleaved and aoe stunned in this situations so this is really your only option if they go that caster. If they go you, its completely different.
Theres no 1 size fits all for enhance theres a ton of knowledge that is needed before you find success. We are support DPS. All of our utility we bring is defensive, so its really hard to win with an offensive playstyle all the time.
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I was in an all caster lobby last night, 2 locks and a frost mage and had a really tough time with that. I know I should probably be running static field totem and totem replacement, but even then, thereās a lot of ground to cover as the solo melee against 2 locks or lock and frost and I just got destroyed. I tried to stay back so other dps could start combat and let me come up, but maintaining good positioning there was hard. Even when I had a global or two to close in.
If you make a video, Iāll definitely watch it!
I would probably prefer doing the coaching instead. If you could send me a match or two we can hop into discord and I can see what I can help you with based on how you play.
My btag: Joocey#1905
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