Just got back from a lil holiday, settled in and checked out whats been happening / whats in the works.
Thanks, I hate it.
Who asked for these changes?
100% terrible move, do not proceed.
Whats bad about it? I like just about everything I’ve seen.
it looks good tho
Some people just like to complain.
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yeah idk I am pumped for the changes. I am really glad they didnt directly nerf spenders themselves, just nerfed elemental wolves which rotationally won’t change much at all.
I love stormbringer in pvp, its super fun, and the changes to the talent tree in 11.1 benefit it a lot. We can’t take hailstorm right now due to it being locked behind 2 lava lash talents and we dont take lava lash with stormbringer build, but in 11.1 its just locked behind ice strike which we do take now, and ice strike also gets the 1 maelstrom gen from swirling maelstrom baseline now, so with elemental assault it will always generate 2 maelstrom weapon. Hailstorm does a ton of damage, its really good, not having access to it is sad and I am so pumped they fixed this in 11.1.
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What specifically don’t you like?
I like the idea of putting more of our damage into actual melee attacks like Stormstrike rather than having all of it in our spenders but it will come down to numbers balancing.
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Mostly the pwave changes, its just another fire nova now, incredibly boring.
Only good stuff I see personally is the stuff related to totemic getting better, maybe the DRE change if its actually a net positive; the rest just really looks like dumbing the spec down and making it way more uninteresting tbh, and in conjunction with the next tier set could be outrageously degenerate by becoming a builder spamfest
I’m not happy about them removing ride the lightning pvp talent. But everything else seems decent. I’m really hoping they put something else in it’s place because that feels like a direct nerf to BG damage output.
as a stormbringer pvp main i see it as a good thing, for one I won’t have to choose between grounding/burrow anymore
I think its a good thing too. Ride the lightning is just kinda boring and a bit too passive for my liking.
Stormbringer gaining access to Hailstorm is actually huge for that build. Its a crazy amount of damage we dont get because we cant path to it, and it reduces mastery value not being able to take it like Totemic builds can. Arc discharge getting a 2nd charge is great, plus prim wave and chain lightning AoE applying lightning rod is a massive change.
I wouldnt mind seeing another damage oriented talent replace Ride the Lightning as long as its a bit more interesting, but I do like being able to take Grounding and Burrow together now rather than having to choose like Furious said.
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I’m all for builders hitting harder because they are just more fun to press. I’m anxious to see if that changes with 11.1.
Strongly prefer the new spec tree layout because you can choose Ice Strike + Hailstorm without messing around with fire at all.
Kind of wish they would ditch Flametongue and let us do double Windfury. For aesthetic reasons if nothing else.
Fully support the suggestion in another thread for glyphs to hide buffs as well. Our abilities are flashy enough. I don’t think we need the swirlies.
I LOVE Hailstorm mechanic.
Yeah same its really fun, I cannot wait to be able to use it in pvp with Stormbringer build.
On top of that, Chain lightning aoe applying lightning rod as Stormbringer will be really good for cleave, thats a pretty nice change.
Legacy of the Frost witch going to 8 second duration is also sweet, same with Ice Strike generating 2 maelstrom weapon if you take Elemental Assault now that the Maelstrom weapon from Swirling Maelstrom is getting baked directly into Ice strike.
Just a lot of good changes honestly, talent tree looks great.
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Hailstorm is so good. I’ve been taking with storm since like the last season of DF. it preforms even better with storm bc the crazy amount of spenders we’re throwing out. It’s way better than crash lightning for PvP.
It’s one of the reasons why I prefer storm over totemic. The synergy with that and stormweaver is too good
Crash Lightning is only taken to buff Stormstrike by 25%+, since the talent right below it makes Crash Lightning buff Stormstrike by 25% per target hit, up to 6, which is good. The actual damage of Crash Lightning is useless in pvp though, but that buff to Stormstrike is just really good.
Right now the reason we really cant take Hailstorm is because we waste 2 points on Lava lash which we get no value with really. Next season though we can take it without losing anything really, we just swap Crashing Storms out for it which is only taken now because theres nothing else to take.
We can also even take Prim Wave potentially since the 1st point of Legacy of the Frost Witch is 15% next patch, meaning we only lose 10% frost/phys damage from this talent if we go 1/2. Depends if prim wave actually hits hard, but it generates 5 maelstrom baseline now too and aoe applies lightning rod.
Its pretty exciting tbh. Storm gets a lot better I think.