Engineering in Ulduar since 8.1

Before 8.1, I would run through Ulduar on an engineer or two and make use of Flame Leviathan, XT, and Mimiron to get a few Cobalt and Saronite Bars, along with various elementals.

Since 8.1, when you kill any of the above bosses and use engineering, you instead receive one piece of junk, usually a [Whizzed-Out Gizmo]. I have experienced this on multiple characters, both factions, on multiple weeks. I realize only a very small fraction of players may clear Ulduar weekly, and even fewer interested in the Engineering aspect, but this is still an issue.

I have submitted bugs within the game for weeks and a GM suggested I post on the forums, so here we are.

If this is an intended loot change, please let us know.

If it is not intended, please fix it.

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I can confirm this also happened to me (on EU servers), right after 8.1 went live.

I wonder if Jeeves is still on the loot table? The canonical way to get the Jeeves recipe would be to farm flame leviathan, so if this is now missing, that would need to be addressed.

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Another week and this is still an issue.

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So do I need to keep posting every week till this gets fixed?

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I dunno, do you? I mean, it’s on you. Doing so, or not doing so, makes no difference to how dev prioritizes legacy content debugging. Bumping doesn’t help, and it never has. QA isn’t going to crank up the severity field of the fix ticket they generated at first valid bug report just because someone spams bumps.

Bump or don’t. They fix it when they fix it.

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I just killed those bosses and was able to ‘skin’ them all with engineering. Looks like it may be fixed.

I can use engineering on them, but the rewards from scrapping them seem to have been heavily nerfed, or are broken.

I received what I would consider normal loot from them (e.g. 9x Overcharged Capacitor, 7x Cobalt Bar, 3x Eternal Shadow, 1x Titansteel Bar, etc). I’ve done it on a second character with similar results.

I wonder if it’s correlated to Outland Engineering skill or when you leveled it? Both my character have 75/75 skill and trained it before the profession expansion split.

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Huh, rad. Just tested Whatshisvents, and all was normal. 5x Shadow, 17x blasting triggers, and 5x cobalt bars (and the trash gizmo). Much better, got what I was after a bit ago and haven’t tested it lately.

I did max out all my engineering prior to the split, so I have max OL AND WotLK engineering, and I tested it on 10/N, whatever the lower end of the new split is, just in case this might affect anything.

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I just did Ulduar 25H on an alt with 1/75 Northrend engineering and received only a Whizzed-Out Gizmo from both Flame Leviathan, XT-002 Deconstructor, and Mimiron which reminded me of this bug thread. I can’t say what else would be different other than it’s the first time doing Ulduar on this particular character.

Edit: I went back to Ulduar 25H on Forisa to test this since she still has maxed Northrend engineering. I received the expected mats as I did back in 2019 when testing this. I’ll try to test if I can find the threshold where skill makes a difference.

Edit 2: I skinned the bosses on a character that has 65/75 Northrend Engineering and still only received junk like the Whizzed-Out Gizmo. I didn’t think it took maxed Northrend engineering to get good mats, but it looks like I may have been wrong.

Edit 3: The next week I skinned Flame Leviathan and XT-002 at Northrend Engineering level 71 and 73, respectively, to try to find a lower point where you could successfully skin them. However, I harvested only 2 Volatile Blasting Triggers from Flame Leviathan and then a Whizzed-Out Gizmo on XT. It wasn’t until hitting 75 Northrend Engineering skill that I successfully harvested the ‘normal’ engineering mats from Mimiron.