Can we please take a look at reducing effectiveness in PvP for Engineering Helms & Diamond-Laced Refracting Prism. The Relational Normalization Gizmo, Personal Absorb-o-tron, and Auto-Self-Cauterizer traits and the Diamond-Laced trinket shielding offer way to much passive defense to classes that are already ahead of the pack. These are leaps and bounds ahead of Safeguard Trinket, and having both of these work at 100% effectiveness in a Rated PvP environment makes the user a non-viable kill target for just about everything but RMP burst.
Even at 50% effectiveness these traits + trinket would see viable use in PvP, without it being SOOO much ahead of their alternatives.
Dillon youâre kind of dumb. As if those top 10 players in the world couldnât be even better than they are, if they cared to try and use that item. If they did, theyâd stay top 10 until patched.
what dilly says is truth. this is gonna be toxic but i hate this garbage pve meta and the players that abuse it just makes me
look at vexstâs spr/ww/rdruid. theyâre top 10 on ladder and it isnât from skill in the slightest.
now iâm a rmpal main, so i donât have much room to talk in terms of a comp having skill behind it or anything but, after watching their games against good players they all 3 abuse the heck out of pve trinkets. floormat uses diamond barrier trinket as well as the aoe shield trinket. the ww is like 419 ilvl with the diamond barrier trinket making it proc like 12k absorbs. And even the rdruid uses the aoe shield trinket for 2x aoe shield of 70k ish a piece.
vexst tanks 3x dr sheeps more than ANY druid iâve seen, and both the ww and floormat do NOTHING all game and still win just because pve gear stacking benefits their classes more than others.
donât get me wrong i think floormat is a very good frost mage, easily one of the best in NA, but his spriest gameplay is average at best and his comp strictly wins from pve trinkets and being insanely high ilvl on classes that benefit strongly from it in this meta.
itâs just gross, this meta can suck a fat one.
also watching their games vs nahj/ticki/vultz, the rmp literally had countless perfect setups but the ww/spr/rdruid just perma lives because their comp benefits too hard off the pve stuff, to the point where itâs carrying them heavily.
Which trinket is the aoe absorb one. Might as well make a list of PvE gear thatâs needs some adjustments. Who knows maybe Bornakk will see it
Oh and btw, the Crucible of Storms gear is gonna mess up this meta even worse if they donât proactively do something first (which wonât happen of course)
Armory vultz, the guy has 34% haste
We ignore him because targeting him while he spell steals hots would be the wrong move.
We have to focus on interrupting and CCing Ticki or else he outmanaâs me. Yeah Iâm not sure how, gotta ask ticki yourself how he does it.
All these things add up to an arcane mage who can sheep an Rdruid.
Hereâs a clip of Vultz saying he should get sheeps on an Rdruid if heâs ignored
Never heard of thanor or vexst in my life, but they are literally the 2nd highest team on ladder. wonder where they would be if pve trinkets werenât allowed in pvp.
Nah the engy traits are 100% effective in pvp, just the gnomish gizmo and the cauterizer or absorbatron, the class trait is still reduced by 50%. i noticed this the first time i did rbgs when i had just crafted my 415 engy helm.
And this is case in point on why PvP should be balanced with templates.
Blizzard can never be trusted to properly identify and balance individual items for PvP. Every single patch there will be a multitude of PvE items that are overlooked and abused in PvP for months on end until fixed, at which point the next patch will be released and it will all happen again ad infinitum.
Pretty much this. Just wait⌠Crucible of Storms items will be completely ignored for PvP tuning and weâre gonna be in an even more cancerous meta next week.
Thereâs honestly so many examples of this happening. Itâs literally every single time new items are added. If I actually documented every time it happened nobody would ever disagree with me that templates are needed. Just look at the first BfA tournament with tank trinkets. Itâs truly a joke that templates were removed because 2 people (one being Abom) said they loved the âgrindâ. /barf
He sure loved that grind didnât he⌠so much so that he quit the game mid season 1 after he realized how terrible it was and had cried all throughout legion for it
Maybe Blizzard thinks broken raid items make pvp more fun and exciting
Keep in mind the massive majority of the playerbase are pveârs of some sort. Why would they remove âfunâ from their main demographic? Plus, we all wanted templates gone, right?
wouldnt it be great if professions mattered again? I miss when the game felt like a real rpg, things like gem colors, meta slots, enchants, weapon chainsâŚ
