Eh it’s not so bad for me, I’m used to it. I can’t say that I’ve had many issues with people not being understanding about it thankfully.
Despite my general Scrooge-y-ness, people aren’t all that bad most of the time. (If you ever tell anyone I said that I’ll deny it til the uh… cows come home… )
I play like 4-5 hours a week (depending on doing a M+) and during those hours 4 are spent on two days doing Mythic (currently) can I still consider myself casual?
Because honestly that’s how I feel, I just choose to use my limited time to do specific content, typically heroic, but for this patch we progressed through due to the increased time.
I was able to accomplish all my goals in BfA with the gear available to me.
None of my stretch goals for the forseeable future require more gear.
Well then I guess you don’t need that 475 gear. Do the appropriate content to earn the rewards you want.
I don’t think the top Ilvl of “casual” gear is the problem with the gameplay loop for players that don’t want to do higher level content. After all, you don’t need ilvl 470 for that content.
As someone who barely puts any effort into this expansion, I think the fact that world quest and solo content gives you better gear than raids and mythic+ Makes end game progression feel very stunted. Where is the reward in doing a normal level raid or anything below mythic+5 or even pvping if 4 world quest and a solo vision will give you way better gear. Something doesn’t seem right about that.
Ahhhh gone are the good old days where the casual player could grind out badges running heroics and get gear that way.
I miss the old ways
Why do M+ 10 players need 465 gear? Afterall the +10s are doable without it. Why doesn’t gear scale to infinity for M+? Afterall infinite difficulty requires infinite gear.
I still don’t get it. Gearing lets you do harder content. It reflects in your armory besides your gear.
But some want “gearing” to be their end game? I mean I don’t do mythic and I am stuck at around 473. Should I be upset? Do I need 490 Ilvl? To do what? 473 is fine is everything I do!
We all have same “amount” of endgame.
Why not come out and say we need “best” gear for …pet battles and emissary quests because you do get gear for whatever you do. You just don’t 485s because you are not mythic raiding. Should you?
Well… why did you feel the need to make this thread when you just said this about the game yesterday.
Because the content wasn’t bad but the reward system has always been crap for casuals.
You also do realize that the only 465 you are getting from a 10+ is from the weekly chest, right? They only drop 455 at the end of the dungeon.
If plus 10s are doable without it, then why aren’t you running with top gear?
Do they really drop 465? I guess they are there for encouragement. Most of the mythic plus gear is rubbish to being with. Then again, you may not know the difference…
Nope, only the weekly chest, the dungeons themselves drop 455. 15+ would be the regular source of 465’s, with a weekly 475.
So are you one of those casual elitists that only does the most casual of content. Go do a normal or heroic raid, some mythic+, visions to award gear. you can do all those things and still be a casual.
So go on tell us how many hrs you play weekly and how much you should receive as reward. Surely you must have some idea?
Supposedly, that is exactly what they did in BfA. If you don’t like the gearing for casuals in BfA, you are going to hate the game in Shadowlands.
Join a good guild and this manufactured problem goes away.
Probably, I’ll most likely be playing starter edition through most of Shadowlands unless Torghast is the best thing since sliced bread.
Y’all are entirely too riled about stuff that’s unlikely to ever happen.
You just solved your own problem.
I don’t run M+, but the general consensus I’ve seen is that you should find a group of friends to run with as opposed to strangers. You’ll have a much better time, and you also won’t run into the issue of tryhards trying to min/max.