End the war on solo gameplay in WoW (Part 1)

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944

As a solo player, OP is extremely dramatic and should find a single player RPG

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945

wow, so many of you totally adulterate the meaning of MMORPG.

Neither grouping nor soloing are mutually exclusive definitions for MMORPG. Unless of course you’ve always thought the “G” in “MMORPG” stands for “Grouping.” Then I might give you a pass.

But I think we all know that’s just not the case.

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946

Don’t need to. The grouping part of the genre is already clearly stated in the name.

Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game

947

Nor did I say you did. Note, I said “people”, not “all people” or “everyone”.

I mean without people judging an entire group just based off of two members, why would that be the case?

But you definitely generalize when you speak about more than just the 2 people you have an actual example of. So really the point you managed to drive home was there are at least 2 jerks on the internet.

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948

But unlike math, language is socially constructed and not objective. Take the word “gay,” for example. That word in its original sense meant, “happy and carefree.” Now, that definition is considered dated and the primary definition has to do with sexual orientation.

The word “literally” used to mean “exactly.” Now it is used figuratively and hyperbolically: “I was literally blown away by her response.” This is technically an incorrect use of the word, but it has become so widespread as to now be included in the dictionary.

My point is, the meaning of words and how they are used is fluid and constantly changing. No word has an objective, permanent definition in all contexts–especially words and terms that have emerged relatively recently.

I don’t know where you are getting your information, but plenty of people use the term casual to mean “not serious, dedicated, or competitive” when it comes to gaming, and that definition would exclude Mythic raiders regardless of how few hours they put into the game. Most people tend to use casual to mean BOTH “doesn’t invest a lot of time” AND “doesn’t invest a lot of effort.” Which means that neither the 20 hour RPer nor the 5 hour Mythic raider would fully qualify as “casual.”

Also, outside of a specifically gaming context, the first definition of the word “casual” in the dictionary is “relaxed and unconcerned.” I think it’s a bit unfair to tell someone they are objectively wrong in their definition of “casual gamer” when they are literally applying the primary dictionary definition of the word “casual” to “gamer.” If someone is relaxed and unconcerned, they are probably not mythic raiding.

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949

hmm, looked that up in every resource I could find, and it literally just means “more than 1 player.”

Grouping is not mentioned or implied. Try again.

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950

You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s flat out wrong.

I honestly don’t care what other people’s definitions of casual is in gaming. The one I stated is the correct one and there is a huge difference between casual and solo players.

Most people use the term casual to imply they are bad or used as an excuse for their mediocrity.

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951

Still have not said according to who, other than yourself. What person, organization, or entity is responsible for The Correct Definition of Gaming Terms™?

(I’m being sarcastic because you’re being unbearably condescending, but I’m actually curious to know where you get your information, and why it is 100% more accurate and legitimate than everyone else’s)

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952

I think people would be surprised how easy some very skilled players consider early mythic bosses to be, especially with later patch gear and whatever nerfs might come out. A former top 200 world CE raider could definitely be pretty carefree and relaxed if they would down their playtime and chilled in a 3/10 type guild. On the other hand I think people who do mythic raiding more or less understand that even if they basically raidlog only other mythic raiders would be will be willing to call them a casual player.

953

In BfA I knew a Heroic guild that was having trouble with Heroic Zul one night.

So they flipped it to Mythic and killed Mythic Taloc with just 17 people, having never tried the boss before.

(This was when Uldir was current, btw.)

954

I know this patch a lot of heroic/early mythic guilds consider the first 3 easier than H Sylv.

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955

Oh, I agree. But GETTING to that point required a tremendous amount of prior skill and dedication. Which is why a lot of people wouldn’t consider it to be a true representation of the “casual” player.

956

And shorter, too! :laughing:

957

Today 2022 the top 3 are the biggest whiners of all of WoW’s history, It’s like childish behavior- take away toys (content) from the solo kids and give it all to the biggest group of cry babies.

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958

Probably because no one thought they would have to state something so obvious. But one never should underestimate the stupidity of people.

MMORPGs are multi-player games with the point and purpose of players groping up to complete activities. Hence why only certain activities can be done alone but all activities (except a few expansion features) can be done as a group and all top level activities require a group.

If you don’t understand this very simple and basic concept, then I don’t know what to say to you.

959

As someone with very mild/moderate social anxiety which may be why some people solo, finding the right group is a lot easier than you think. I was solo for the last few years, and it was fun, but it was lacking. I posted in the looking for guild forums and get quite a few responses. I found a guild with fun, mature adults and it’s been really good. If you enjoy solo and are upset at the rewards, I suggest finding another game. I’d also say, if you’ve been hesitating just because you’re shy/scared to put yourself out there, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

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960

Wonderful response. I like that definition: “Relaxed and unconcerned.” :blue_heart:

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961

I need a casual transmog now after reading all this. Where are my khakis and polo shirts. Maybe some dockers.

962

looks at the title of the thread
looks at what this thread has turned into

It would appear we have a long way to go.

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963

Didn’t take the time to read through the whole thread but is more solo gameplay going to bring people back to the game? I honestly don’t know. Started playing end of Cata, so never really saw the ‘glory days’ of Wrath, BC and Vanilla like so many talk about, with jammed servers and dedicated interest in the game. What did they do then to keep people playing that they are not doing now? Can they ever hope to attract those numbers back to WoW?