Enchanting is being ruined by automatic invite addons

I’m playing on US Whitemane, right now the normal meta for making money off of enchanting is to wait for people to say “LF mongoose” etc in trade chat, invite them as fast as you can, and whoever gets the invite first gets the tip for doing the enchant.

Right now there is 3-4 people online at a time that are all abusing an addon that instantly invites anyone asking for enchants out of trade chat. What this means is that anyone manually inviting people has a 0% chance of being able to compete, meanwhile people with the addon can literally walk away from their computer and have better odds of getting the sale. I’m not sure how it works between the addon users, perhaps the one with the fastest internet connection always wins, I don’t know, but it’s insane and it has ruined the competition for the profession.

Do you think Blizzard will ever do something about this? To me it’s unquestionably cheating and should be banned outright.

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The one with the lowest latency wins (i.e. whoever lives in or closest to CA where the servers are located).

The main issue is Blizzard’s API allows auto-invites which kind of surprises me and as a result has been used extensively by mages or raid leaders for awhile now. As a result this pushed onto weakauras starting awhile back but has extended onto easier and easier to use addons to where any average joe with 0 coding knowledge can use it and be effective too. The addon mentioned above basically requires 1 command and that’s it.

Basically there’s no way to ‘win’ over someone using the addon who has low latency (even if you use it yourself), so it definitely does ruin the competition. I can understand it for raid leads, but would say Blizzard did not intend for it to go this far.

I’m not entirely sure they’ll do anything about it unless it becomes extremely prevalent (i.e. it starts creeping on all the professions, people get spammed more and more). I do think that is exactly what will happen at this rate though unless something is done.

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Naw, the addons cant apply the enchants … thus people get quite angry if they get invited by an AFK enchanter … good way to get put on a bunch of peoples ignore list

Yes, that’s exactly how it works. I was one of the orig people with enchanting auto-invites, and for pretty much all of classic I was the only show in town. I only gave my code to a handful of other trusted people and we soon found out that the whole thing was highly latency dependent. Since I live in downtown Chicago and use an ISP other than the failure of a company Comcast, I have a 2ms ping to Chi 2 colo at 350 E Cermak Rd … which is likely where the bliz servers for east cost reside.

Initially since I was the only one in control of the code base, the people I had given the code too and I all had a gentlemans agreement to not run the code at the same time. This worked out quite well and there where minimal to no issues till TBC when 2x things changed.

  1. Everyone and their brother switched to Enchanting as their primary prof
  2. Someone Opensource the auto-invite code

The opensource version is not nearly as good as my version as mine was primarily designed to prevent false positives. The opensource version not only doesn’t make any attempt to prevent false positives and further gimps itself in other ways like not responding if someone says “LF Enchanter” w/ out a specific enchant being named.

No, its highly unlikely bliz will do anything about this as I have been running my version of the code for 2.5 years now with tens if not hundreds of reports against me … yet I have never had the opportunity to speak to a GM about it.

Well, technically its not against the ToS. There was another similar addon that would wisper people and auto-invite people to guilds … iirc this addon was broken because it was annoying people.

However, the enchanting auto invites are quite the opposite … in order to trigger them you literally have to ask for the exact service that is being provided. The only diff is ~5ms for an automated response vs ~5-10s for a manual response. The fact that 15+ people whisper you is not caused by the addon, its just a factor of that many people sitting in trade wanting your business. People just find it jarring that some of the offers come in mere milliseconds after they pressed enter.

Again, as I said previously prob nothing will be done. However, I highly doubt this will trickle over to other professions for one very simple reason. All other professions can make use of the AH to sell their crafts. They can spam trade chat, but the majority of their business is via AH because customers are lazy and would rather search of a given item than advertise in trade for hours on end.

To this end, this is actually the whole reason I wrote my code … both I and my customers want to be lazy. Neither I nor my customers want to spam trade chat for hours on end. And if bliz really really wanted to do something about it, their best course of action would not be to break the API … but rather to simply add Velums into the game prior to Wrath. Believe it or not, this would be a massive boon to ALL parties involved. Standing in org for hours regardless of if your using code or not is kind of boring.

PS - the auto inviter is only one of the pieces of code that I have written … I also wrote https://wago.io/17ZQgjA3y to aid in my enchanting endeavors and share it openly to assist all enchanters.

The auto-invite function is against TOS. Please make sure that everyone reports the use of this addon . Confirmed by a GM on screenshot below.

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I use them in SW to ghetto hearth.

Yah, prob is … its not a 3rd party program … its an addon. Addons are allowed.

see this post: Please break or ban automatic invite/whispers - #3 by Swîftthîstle-faerlina

Also, holy necropost batman … this post is from January

It depends on what the addons do. This one does something that is against TOS.

no, it doesnt … I know because I wrote it and have been using it for almost 3 years now

Yes it does, and you can go argue with a GM about it if you want, I had them confirm this twice now to make sure. Now shoo, troll.

Well, i have had legions of people on 2 different high pop servers report me … and NOTHING has happened … so your wrong?

I have also participated in 5 different posts on the forums (on my main) describing my use of the code, how it works, and why its not against ToS. No blue posts, no interaction from any staff.

The answer you are getting from your “GM” is most likely due to how you are describing it / lack of understanding.

Its not against ToS, Never has been

oh look, here is the addon https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/enchanter w/ zero comments about anyone getting banned or having bad reactions w/ GMs … shocking.

If you’d read the replies, i posted a screenshot where i accurately described what it does and you can see the reply. Now, I have no further interest in discussing this with you as you’re clearly trolling.

Getting away with something doesn’t mean that what you’re doing is right. Goodbye.

This addon has to go. I have it and I cant even get any business.