Downtime at the desk not taking off to go work out or shopping groceries
You can do that after 5pm
Ahh zuma, one of the forum clowns showing exactly why “no one wants to play with me and i don’t know why.” guffaw
Most development work can be done from home, and very few things actually require to be in person. Also spoken like someone who’s never lived in a high cost area, and blizzard surely doesn’t pay enough to live anywhere near the poverty line out in Irvine.
Its just corporate trying to “justify” office overhead, instead of downsizing to a manageable level. Technology has advanced leaps and bounds but the boomer mentality is still here and stubborn.
I do have one it’s in my work truck when I’m out and about for work
It doesn’t record until it detects if I’m doing something wrong like driving and texting or if I drive reckless
So, let me get this straight.
YOUR shift is flexible, you can work at the times of your choosing.
OTHER PEOPLE aren’t allowed to have jobs that work the same way, everyone else has to work 9-5 on principle.
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And what makes you think people who WFH do that?
You’ve done nothing but make baseless assumptions about WFH this entire thread.
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I can’t choose my time, dispatch chooses it for me
Theyre a bunch of spoiled brats. Hopefully Microblizz will wake up and move Blizzard out fo California to a place where people actually have a great work ethic.
Spoiled implies Blizzard giving them more than they deserve. Which anyone with half a brain would know that’s not the case
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Cause you got people like this doing that
So you are saying that you really enjoyed the lack of traffic on a commute, the lack of distractions, the lack of extra meetings, etc. Hmmmm
So a small office for critical hands on staff would be better when everyone who can work offsite, does? Keeps the cars off the roads, keeps people from thinking they need your attention at meetings, and lets you do your work in peace.
People would rather have a good quality of life than work THERE when the office comes with the commute, high rent costs, distractions, etc.
Those who work best in an office should be able to.
Those who work best without distractions and can work offsite. I don’t care if they work at the beach even. Just as long as the work is done on time, correctly, and they attend whatever meetings and calls I have.
People think that the refusal to go back to working an office is because people might be lazy. No, mostly people want a better quality of life than what is offered in “office culture”.
Then can leave, and they will, and it will hurt teams left behind who have to keep doing the work and train newbies.
Neither have I and we never used it on people either. Nor cameras. That is invasive. Is the work done correctly and on time. Did the meet the deadlines, meetings, documentation, etc. Do they communicate with questions and respond to coworkers.
Pretty much. It is VERY easy to keep track of what people are doing and identify slackers. Those same folks who slack at home would slack at an office too most of the time. Heh.
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Except when they do it in the office, they distract and prevent others from working, too.
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There are some actual good people that don’t take advantage of WFH those are the people who should stay at home working
The ones who slack off or try to sneak out while “pretending” to work should be asked to work at the office
The latter is majority
best way to get themselves a pink slip
Wait, you can be trusted to manage your own time and get the job done without someone sitting on your shoulder? What makes you think other adults can’t do that with computer tasking?
Unless you work directly with a customer live, you can write, code, spreadsheet, whatever, any time you want as long as it is done by the deadlines when others need it.
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Yeah, dispatch makes my time as said above
Because I’m a hot mix asphalt worker
See video I posted above as an example
But I don’t WANT TO!!
So you don’t even work a job that can be done from home, and you sit here judging those of us who do
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And do you get, do you have any concept of the fact that not all jobs are like that?
I get 20-40 actionable emails a day on an average day of varying complexity. I can bang out a response in a minute to some, others will snarl up my day for hours.
As long as at the end of the day all my emails are answered, cases are entered and outstanding work is followed up on, it literally does not matter what time I do those things. If I had a dentist’s appointment at 3pm and put gas in my car and pick up prescriptions and get home at 5pm, and I got more emails while I was out, I get to sit down and at some point in the night work on those. If I happen to not get any emails from noon to five, it’s a whole lot of futzing around on the internet, Youtube, watering my plants, doing laundry.
Because my job is reactive, and I’m being paid for the skill and knowledge that I apply to those emailed-in issues, not how long it takes me to do it. Not unlike how if you get finished at a site early, I’m betting you get to head out after that and don’t need to stick around making small talk and tidying up.
If that rankles you in particular, maybe study up for a knowledge-based profession so you too can take a bit to work out in the morning before you dive in to answering your emails instead of needing to be subject to the whims of your dispatcher?
I hear a lot about people working on construction sites wasting time, pretending to work, slacking off…I guess that means that everyone in your industry needs direct supervision too! Better get you guys into an office, somehow!
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Only judging the ones who take advantage of WFH wrong
The people who actually do their jobs should be rewarded to keep working at home, the ones who try to ruin it for everyone else should be RTO, thats another way I think RTO and WFH can be balanced
yes and no on that
The other day I’m waiting for the asphalt truck to show up so the guys laying down the asphalt can do their job and I can do my job taking density shots
Somehow the driver got lost, by the time he showed up, the asphalt mix was already getting cold and you can’t lay down that cause it can’t compact
So everyone’s time was wasted, but we still got paid, we have to fill out a cancellation form so that the client can be charged for it
Mouse tracking is a VERY silly way of monitoring someone. They could be doing anything with that mouse. Posting on the forums, gaming, reading the news, playing on reddit.
The ONLY thing that is important is that work is done on time, and is good quality. Period.
I don’t care if someone gets up at 4am and works until 7am. Goes to a doctor’s appointment at 8. Is back at 10am for a team zoom, and finishes their tasking at 6pm. I don’t even care if they finish it at 10pm. As long as I have it the next day when I need it, and the quality is good, I am happy.
I don’t care if someone does a super long day on a Monday and attends a child’s school event on a Tues afternoon.
ALL that matters is that the work gets done. There are people though who have a serious need for control who lose site of the end goal. It does not matter HOW someone gets the task done, as long as it is on time and correct.
The folks that need to be micromanaged do exist. They don’t thrive in an independent work environment or self starting environment. However a ton of tech folks do. Many are seven self taught coders, artists, etc. They do immerse themselves in whatever they are passionate about.
With the typical Blizz person, the hard part is getting them to take time OFF. They tend to be so workaholic they burn themselves out. Quite a bit of the folks in gaming industry are like that.
We are not talking about 15 year olds who prefer to socialize instead of do whatever their summer job is.
Well, ok we agree on that. That is reasonable.
What is not reasonable though is assuming those who refuse to return at Blizz, are people who were slacking. They want out of the Irvine rat race/costs, not to avoid work.
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This.
Every other monday, we have sprint planning. We decide which stories are going to be worked on for the sprint (a two week period) and then get to work. And in the end, all that matters is that the stories are finished, tested, and ready for sign off by the end of the week.
I don’t need to be literally at my computer 8 hours a day (though I usually have enough work to cover that) so long as I’ve gotten everything done. Granted, I do need to be available if a teammate needs me, especially since I’m a point of contact on one application, so if it breaks, its expected I’d respond. But at the end of the day, what’s important are the stories being completed on time, not me having my rear in a chair for eighty hours.
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