Embrace 10-man content

SoD’s final days on the horizon. This isn’t dooming, it’s just a fact that we know that it will stop getting support. Once that happens, guild structures will shrink or crumble in places where they can’t shrink.

My hope, or cope, is that Blizzard has plans for what the process of a shrinking SoD looks like.

I would love to see max level versions of the level-up raids adjusted for 10-man speed running for instance. Something you could log in week after week and improve at. Maybe a rotation where only one of the heroic raids is open per week to focus the attention/competition onto that specific raid.

Additionally, retrofitting Karazhan and ZA as 10-man SoD content could be amazing as well. ZA already has a speed run focus so it would fit right in with the paradigm for a late-stage SoD.

Just my take of course, but I feel like 20 mans are not going to be sustainable in the twilight hours of SoD. Closing the loop and returning to 10 man just makes sense to me.

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heroic bfd and gnomer with updated loot seems like an easy w for lvl 60 10m content. this is the appropriate area for hard modes imo

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I want to see ST reworked as a 10-man as well.

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I think I got enough of ST after 14 straight weeks.

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is that really a reason not to release an optional lvl 60 version of it with re-worked cosmetics?

Please no. So many have built their guilds and rosters around 20 now. Dont come in and ruin a good thing at this stage.

Do you honestly think they’re going to survive a 14 month content drought?

When winter hits, the wagons circle more tightly, it’s inevitable. Ideally there is the content there to support it (PvP, 10-man content).

Embrace flexible content.

That’s more like it.

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I’d argue 10-mans are inherently more flexible for the average player to access.

On that note the 20-40 person raids aren’t going to go anywhere. This would simply be additional recycled content with low overhead that certain dedicated players could sink their teeth deep into. Leveling up new alts and gearing them through Naxx and SE would still be there for more casual players.

And if Kara/ZA were to somehow be retrofitted into 10-man content, Kara is historically pretty PUG friendly as it is.

I meant the flexible raids of retail… 10 to 25

This makes the most sense to me and probably a lot of other players.

We have Karazhan Crypts and portals to Karazhan via Atiesh.

Time to give us Karazhan Tower as a 10 man again alongside 20 man Scarlet Enclave in Phase 8

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Karazhan Tower would not come phase 8 lol. But a phase 9 that added it and downscaled T4 to 60 could be insane.

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Probably not unless they have kept it a secret all this time. You’re most likely right though it’s doubtful. I think the “lol” at the end of your reply is unnecessary here though. Just saying it would be nice.

A phase 9 with just a 10 man would be kind of lame. I’d rather they make tower a 20 man at that point or make another new/remastered 20 man to go alongside it in phase 9 (if we get a phase 9).

Karazhan would have made the perfect 10 man addition to Naxx and was probably the original plan in vanilla.

But yeah, this would be awesome after Scarlet Enclave.

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10man is a dead end. 40man is the moneymaker.

This makes me sad to think about :frowning:

10-men content was amazing and easy to put together. Coordinating 20 or 40 people is a pain the behind, and definitely not sustainable as fun as it is.