Elitism in Higher M+ Keys

Get new friends.

Not everyone is that lucky.

Luck has nothing to do with it, you’re looking for teammates to play a video game with not a godparent for your unborn child.

When has luck ever stopped you from making a friend? Are you saying you have been unlucky thus far and have never found 1 person that wants to be your friend?

Does your internet dc right before you hit the add friend button?

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Nobody that’d do keystones.

It’s all about when you do the keys in the season.

If you’re ahead of the curve, pugging is fine, you get good players who know what they’re doing and are generally pleasant.

If you’re close to the curve (like the 10-14 range is now) you get the ego of the “almost good” players who have yet to realize that interpersonal skills are relevant when playing at a higher level.

Look man I really dont know what to say, 1.1 million unique characters have done at least 1 key this season and if you’re unable to even find 1 person out of over a million players it might be a you issue…

I’ve never had an issue making friends on WoW so I can’t empathize with you…I recruited 5 people to my guild from doing +2 keys over the last 3 days(I pug +2 keys to get some perspective and farm renown)

They’ve all got the same issue with not being able to find people to play with now the 5 of them play together in our guild…most people are very lovely and when you put them together a bit of magic happens.

And when the exception occurs, people like to ignore it.

Those are the people you dont add to your friends list or even put on ignore.

If you could find 1 person a week you’d have your own push group by the end of the 1st month of launch.

I’ve done enough +2 keys to form multiple academy groups in our guild and there are a ton of players like yourself that find it difficult to find friends.

Come to my server and I’ll make a static group for you.

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It’s alittle more than keystones being burned out in my personal case.

I appreciate your offer but I’m simply not interested.

My opinion is unlikely to change.

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MM is overpowered on AoE… Way more OP when I start getting the tier sets. I am carrying my group. That’s how to live as PuG. You carry them not the other way around. If I am grouped with people more geared than me, fine. If I am grouped with less experience PuGs, I would do my best to beat the timer for them and/or at least complete the dungeon for them. Wont leave them or insult them. If they wipe, I feign death. If I cant really carry them to the end boss, I would just say sorry to them that my toon is not powerful enough to carry them. And if they ask me why it is so hard, I would answer them and could show the elistismhelper mod for them to fully understand where they failed hoping that next time they play, they would improve… I would have more PuG buddies to group with to reach M+15s and KSMs.

It is off. I dont want to see it yet until I see wipes. I usually show it at the very end. It also shows my numbers to check if I did it right. What I usually see is if people on my group is beating me in least failure damage, most likely the group has beaten the timer. If all are like me, that’s would be the best case scenario.

You are in the range of toxicity. Anything sub 15 you are going to have noobs that are just toxic for the sake of being toxic. Someone who watched a dorki or nerftank stream, saw a thing and decided anyone not playing like those people are bad - seriously, I’ve played with some of these people quite a few times over the last few weeks and the amount of toxic noobs in their chat that are stuck in 12-14 key range is astronomical.

In the 15-18 bracket you have the same thing. There are sweet spots (people farming 15s, people doing keys above 20) where the community isn’t as toxic.

My advice? Do not invite people with raider io above the key level you are doing. It’s never a good idea. Some are nice, most times you have people that are insane.

Want me to start bringing out your logs? The sooner you learn your not carrying people. You’re being delusional about it.

Good on you. I on the other hand value my time. No I won’t insult/berate people in keys but I won’t stay in a bad group, even if it’s my key.

Lol that addon again. All I’d say is we don’t have enough dps and people getting hit by alot of avoidable dmg. Not rocket science

elitismhelper is almost as obnoxious as the one healers run that bleat they’re almost out of mana.

like calm down bob, the next pull has an Ur, no I won’t wait.

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I have never felt the need to suck up to anyone to get a raid spot. Just do your job in raid and your fine.

What happens to players who can’t do their job?

It’s true. I just failed a key and wasn’t mad. Wasn’t my fault. A guild group invited me. They just didn’t have the tanking or healing power to push through a tyrannical SD 15 boss.

I went in with no expectations.

Now, if I joined a group that says “15 in time”. I’m going to be pretty irate if people don’t know what’s going on/ don’t have the gear for it.

It’s not always “the elitist” who are the bad guys. If you join apply for a group and they expect a timed 15, have your :poop: together.

I don’t even apply for 18+ because I know my limits.

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Probably the only accomplishment in their life.

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Lol is that a dbd reference? Pig main?

My M+ Logs are decent… Toggle it by ilevel… not by key. I have a run on 99th percentile while I carry bad players. I am not ilevel 269. I returned from ilevel 245 3 weeks ago although I am ilevel 260 right now.

The reason why I dont go to higher keys is becoz I cant carry people on such keys. Oh my bad. I was suppose to only do M+8 2 weeks ago but I cant find keys below +9 so I did +9s instead… I was right that I cant carry people on it. At least I carried my weight. Then I got ilevel 268 weapon from vault and 2nd legendary a week after, that’s when I started +10 last week. I am doing +11s now. I am climbing.

On me, I agree that if we dont have enough DPS, we might as well stop. But I give them chances. At least let’s get them a complete run even if it’s not timed so they have something on vault. It adds vault option on me too. Like my TOP +9 not timed but completed after 3 wipes on the last boss. They were awful on mechanics. But I cant blame them, Spiteful-Tyrannical is a bit hard for me when with no druid.

I used my own ToP+11 key with better ilevel group… but not overgeared. We barely beat the timer but we beat it. ilevel 258 people seems too low at M+11 Tyrannicals. Now I know. And Vy relic is way more powerful than Urh for MM… hasted Aimed Shots are the Best.

Again, the elitismhelper which I personally use really shows its use. Groups with less failed damage tend to beat the timer than groups with awful failed damage. At my low key level, the timer should be forgiving regardless of DPS. We are not M+15s yet. But when I get to that level, I should be perfectionist while doing topnotch damage which I have done on last season.

Makes post about Elitism.

Is responded to by by a bunch of people being Elitist. You can’t make this stuff up. It’s WoW though. A lot of people base their entire self-esteem around the game.

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