You Elite Player’s need to get off your high horses when it comes to Gear Score or Item LvL not being high enough to play with you, and when someone tries to join a raid group or gammas for classic wrath you spout that attitude of your not high enough to play with us. Well how’s the noobs or casuals supposed to get that high Gear Score or high Item LvL to join with you because you refuse to help the noobs or casuals, I use to be like some of you Elite Players during WOD but I stopped being that way towards players when it happened to me when Blizzard dropped the new raid in Tanaan Jungle and the new one in Nagrand when they came out because my item lvl wasn’t what a more hardcore elite player thought it should have been when I was at the min item lvl to join both raids. And the same player’s that complain about the noobs and casuals wanting to do end game content are the same ones complaining about dungeon finder on wotlk and possibly the raid finder coming out in cata classic next year. It’s the players like you are why Blizzard put those two things in the game to help the noobs and the casual player get the gear they want without the drama of some elite monkey telling them that their not invited to raid night because they don’t have the right stats and for you players that say join a guild and let your guild help you, I’ve seen some guild raid leaders be about just as bad as you elite players are. Yea I’m complaining about the elite wankers in game but as a casual players I have the right to join those raids just like every other player in the game my item lvl or gs shouldn’t matter if I understand the fights in the raids.
Correct, just like players have the right to not invite you too said raids.
The same way everyone else did.
Nobody is complaining about that by all means form a group and go for it you know where the entrance is aint nobody stopping you.
No one held my hand to get any better at any game. No one should expect to come rushing in help. If you’re struggling, look up guides and videos. Try easier versions of the content and work your way up.
Most players I play with never look at these things anyway unless given a reason to. When I’m inviting people to my m+ groups it’s just a quick glance at their m+ score to see if they’re in the appropriate ballpark.
I accidently joined a gamma run the other day in wrath and the tank let me stay and the healer was complaining the whole way through the dungeon and the tank was dungeon leader and he told the healer to stop this whining about it for he was gonna removed the healer for being a baby because the tank said it was one of the easier gamma runs compared to some of the other gamma dungeon runs
If the character you’re posting on is the character in question then you need to understand that the ilvl jump going into this tier was 39 item levels. You are applying to content for the current tier wearing items that could have dropped at the start of the expansion. There are numerous ways to quickly get 44X items thanks to the fact everything jumped up so much this week but at 419 there are genuine reasons not to bring you over someone else.
If you want me to help you sort out how best to acquire said item level, then I’ll be happy to do that. This season’s benchmark is basically 441, that’s kinda the lowest your gear should be on average to be running a normal raid. People not knowing where / how to acquire said gear is Blizzard’s problem because their communication of how to navigate gear progression this expansion has been terrible.
You proved my point the elite players don’t have the control over the game like they use to Blizzard making the game noob and casual friendly, because of the elite players being childish when someone asks for help. I often see players in game saying they will help another player than get mad when a player asks for help. That Vanilla WoW attitude don’t really work in the game no more, yea they have the right to not invite noobs or casuals, the elite players are the minority in wow and they have been for the last few years, I’ve seen more casuals and noobs than I have elite players in game.
Please format your post first.
This toons just an alt that I haven’t really worked with yet I have a fury warrior that as an item lvl 442 that I’ve been playing with Vodord just the toon that happens to be the character icon showing on my account
Never said they do. No player does and I literally have no idea what you are on about or what point you are trying to prove?
Not last few years always have been. But this idea you think they are being mean or gatekeeping or ever have been is ???. We never interact with you ingame.
I don’t have to format nothing
Anything, you dont have to format anything, is what you meant to say.
Fair, I assume you have a fair few whelpling crests you have no real use for, correct? Because you can turn those into 447 items with whatever stats you want.
I have some of those but just havent used them yet
You convert them to drake, then to wrym then finally to aspect crests. Don’t waste your whelp crests
Three things about this.
The ratio is 15:1.
It counts towards your cap for said crests, it’s not additional ones
It requires you to be ilvl 476 in every slot already.
The crest upgrading is just to let you get rid of all the crests you had once you 10000% no longer need them. It’s not a reason to save them.
For aspect yes it requires that ilvl but benchmarks are lower for lower tier crests. As running a simple 18 gives gear that is surpassed that benchmark they are invalidated immediately
I wrote up a quick explanation of how to make 447 crafted items for someone in a thread on EU, I’ll link it here for people to see because I’m not sure I can host images on my NA posting char.
Crafted items also do not cost flightstones, so this gets you 447s with your whelplings but doesn’t waste any of your flightstones so you can use them for bigger upgrades you get later.
Unlike you I have a life outside of wow I hangout with my friends and go to the movies and have outdoor hobbies like fishing and camping and hiking and photography when it comes to nature, I don’t have the time to play the game for 7 days a week 10 hours and day so Memberberry get off my case for telling you elite players how I see it.
18s aren’t simple to everyone, and they’re especially not simple I’d guess for someone struggling to get into a normal raid. There’s no shame in that either btw,
As do I, I play a bit more in the first few weeks of a tier but besides the time I block off for raiding with my guild I mostly just play when I don’t have anything else going on. Despite that I still push high keys and clear the raid on mythic pretty early on every tier. Elite players aren’t the ones keeping you out of content, and you don’t need to play this game anywhere near as much as you think you do to do harder content than the average player.
It’s early in the tier, there are still tonnes of normal groups wanting to poke their heads in for the first time and learn the bosses. They won’t get terribly far the first few tries, and that’s fine, but there’s also a LOT of people wanting to try out this raid and only so many spots for each group. There’s stuff you can do to have a better chance of being picked over someone else, but bliz doesn’t tell you where most if not any of it is. Hence my offering to help with that.