What druids?
Wtf are you even talking about?
Most complaints about paladin have nothing to do with their buffs being OP in pvp besides freedom
Lets just completely ignore the fast efficient heals and essentially infinite mana, the plate armor or the bubble that makes them immune to everything while still allowing them to fully use abilities and spin flags.
But yeah, its blessing of might we’re so concerned about
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As far as Holy pally is in classic for pvp, idk…one CS in a team fight locks all of the pally out for 10 seconds.
Id rather have an ele shaman in say a wsg to 1 shot a EFC. Not saying pallies arent good, i guess my point is pallies are really easy to counter.
Having played a holy pally in BC to 2418 in arenas, the same weaknesses transition into TBC with the lockouts. Literally can fake cast 20 interupts, as soon as 1 lands your whole team is at risk of dying. In my opinion by far the worst pvp healer, atleast in BC. I know this was a classic discussion, but their weakness still stands, really easy to deal with.
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Counterspell a shaman and they become just as useless and are less likely to survive the following 10 seconds
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Well its a bit different in the sense the shaman still has spells they can cast, a pally literally cant do anything but auto attack.
Pally also isnt living 10 sec after he gets CS’d.
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You see CL/LBs…we see OOM.
I get it, your thinking is limited to the meta you kinda understand, but maybe you should expand your thinking and realize they’re not immortal gods, they can be shut down, and it’s not actually that hard for decent average 1700 rated arena players to work out.
It’s amusing to me that someone playing a shaman will think paladin is OP, and players who play paladin think shaman is OP. Meanwhile the rest of us non warrior plebs have to deal with warriors and their actual dominance.
Paladin and Shaman make warriors equally ridiculous to deal with just in different ways, you just need to evolve your thinking.
So true, when you go up against a good holy paladin he is literally a raid tank that can heal at the same time.
Right ? Interupt nature school not healing school
So what if a paladin can heal more efficiently. Lot of good that does when your ally is dying. Shaman can at least choose between more efficiency and power + you get a cooldown that blows divine favor out of the water for life saving. Sure, paladins can get up to 20% more effective health through armor, but nothing beats preventing that being an issue in the first place even keeping some one off you for 1.5-3 sec makes it a wash. Don’t forget the extra effective health gained from preventing spells from landing.
As for bubble…really? Would you really give up purge, frost shock, earthbind totem, an instant heal, and grounding totem to have divine shield? Let’s be real here.
Magma totem.
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Same school in Classic. Nearly every totem, all healing, lightning bolt, chain lightning and earth shock are all nature school. If a shaman gets CSed on nature they can use a single shock (frost or flame) and are limited to that single shock for the next, at minimum, 5 seconds.
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How convenient for you to be able to speak for ALL mages.
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You are not supposed to survive a high ranked burst dps in raiding gear. The pvp gear has most of the burst of raiding gear and a crap ton of stamina. In pvp, the full blue set in better than raiding gear.
Ah yes, if only we could all be as enlightened as you
Truly you have figured it all out, with your evolved intellect
For shaman the pvp gear sucks, the rank 14 gear is outclassed by tier 2 and completely overshadowed by tier 2.5
Dude, you’re crying about using the wrong gear for the application, you are barely know what you are doing, and then get globaled because you can’t survive because you don’t have a large enough health pool, don’t kick casts, don’t purge buffs, don’t play with an organized team that knows how to keeps its casters alive with a simple peel.
People here have tried to help, you rejected the help and continue crying. I hate to see how bad you’re going to be crying about arena saying all the same stuff, how pve gear has more damage stats, and how bad arena gear is. Dude right, now you have the game easy, your job is cake you get to chill back global a key target every few min and the rest of the time assist the DPS on kills from a distance.
If your team mates are too stupid to peel you and let a pve geared shaman who probly overextended into the middle of an alliance team die, well that’s on you and your team for playing badly.
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Not saying it isn’t a balance change—just saying Shatter would still work…just not as well.
Wtf are you even going on about?
Where have i complained about anything you’re talking about?
You’re going on some tangent about something ive never even talked about.
Stating the fact that shaman pvp gear is trash for elemental is not a complaint. Its mostly itemized for enhancement
Im willing to bet i know a lot more about the game than you do and willing to bet i could mop the floor with you.
My guild is always looking for teams that think they can take on our premade, want to hit up some wargames and have a go?
Fist of the east star, best premade on whitemane always accepting challenges
LOL Classic premade, what a joke.
What’s worse, you actually think paladin is stronger and that shaman is weaker.
If you were any good you would realize just how crazy effective shaman actually are, but lol classic wow premade, such skill.
Good luck in tbc, arena is going to be a rude awakening for you.
Yes a class who’s only offensive abilities revolve around stuns… which orcs are immune to…