With nerf to lava burst and buffing of earth shock, is anyone planning on running any new builds focused on maximizing ES dmg? Maybe sticking crit over haste?
A lot of eles were already crit stacking
Playing full crit is going to land you kills in low rating but it gets progressively worse not to have a mix of haste/crit the higher you go.
i guess im curious on your thought process here.
So mixture of crit/haste is the way to go? Im currently at 10% crit and 11% haste. I’ve been trying to stack all haste, but picked up several crit pieces from the vault.
Need a minimum of 10% haste to get global cooldowns at a manageable level in pvp probably 13% haste. Gathering crit to around 13-15% is probably the max you can do unless you full gem it and enchant your rings while still managing a good cast timer on hex and again the GCD. If you went full crit your hexes are going to be 1.7 sec casts and gcd on purge totems echoshock etc will be 1.5 seconds. It will be very clunky and in pvp that = non smooth burst setups which can be line of sighted or shut down. Furthermore going full crit will mean less lvb procs (less flameshock ticks).
This is just the basic reason you see elementals rock at least 10-13% haste in pvp.
With battlemaster buff unfortunately i will be rocking 10% crit 13% haste and 32% versatility instead of 13 crit from on use.
thats fair. some haste is good, i thought you meant going for more than just like a minimal amount.
10 percent haste is more than half your gear itemized haste it’s a ton 330-450
Secondary stat to get to 10-15%
Haste starts at 0 crit 5 and mastery 15 percent
really? then i cannot imagine its worth while.
.1second off your cast time is not worth instantly winning an extra 5% because you just crit
Every fifteen seconds a game it’s an additional global. Maybe it’s not worth it but it feels smoother to me. I was thinking about going the crit legs though for elemental equilibrium if it is indeed where the meta is heading for max value.
one extra global every 15seconds VS more consistent crits. (understood crit will never be truly consistent) but with our damage moving more towards earthshocks i think the more we crit those the more we actually kill things. someone told me that under perfect circumstances earthshock is going for like 20k+ crits ? the delta between critting that and not critting that imo is much bigger than 1.8second casts and 1.7second casts
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It puts the crit on the gears for the bus shock is what they fears.
just doing some bgs, and with 12% haste 14% crit 29% versa in full 220 (with earthen harmony so no EE) my earthshocks are ~6k which is right where my lava bursts are at.
crit earth shocks would be 15k, crit with skyfury 18k. right?
earthquake (without Great Sundering) was critting for 1500.
earthshocks have worst case scenario, are just a lava burst, best case are 3 lava bursts.
earthquake is more than i was expecting… going to test that with Great Sundering in bgs… I also saw Zeepeye streaming and using EQ more often in 3’s
EQ with great sundering is ~4k per tick.
I had a 21k ES crit on target dummy earlier, so yes.
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im struggling to get those numbers in PVP… highest ive seen so far is 14.7k (crit)
just got out of a bg where out of 15casts, only 1 crit -_-
idk why im complaining about “only” hitting a 15k instant cast but i am.
It’s because we use Earth Shock the least so it’d be nice for it to hit the hardest. It doesn’t.
Edit- It legit only feels good with windspeaker’s to get another instant lava burst — otherwise idgaf that it exists as an ability
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