Elemental - Lave Eruption + Farseer issue

While this talent feels good overall there is an issue. Not only overloads consume it but also our Ancestors Lava Bursts. It makes your Flame Shock expire before you finish bursting. Since Ancestors cast Lava Bursts no matter what you press it’s really annoying. If I press Stormkeeper and then Ancestral Swiftness + Primoridal Wave my Flame Shock is gone before I press the second Lightning Bolt.

With Ascendance it’s the same. Since it procs Overloads twice even if I use long Flame Shock from Fire Elemental then my Flame Shock is gone before the 2nd Lightning Bolt. We already have to deal with healers spam dispelling in PvP. This is extremely annoying.

2 Likes

Ancestors should not consume FS ticks.

I think the idea of the talent is interesting, putting value to fire builds on keeping FS up and re doting. Adds something dynamic to the old LvB spam build.

Not sure how it will play out though.

And Surge proc rate needs to go up!!!

2 Likes

Damage isn’t there for sure. And if they tune the numbers here and there and fix Farseer + Lava Eruption interaction it might actually be decent but now it’s a downgrade for sure.

Elemental badly needs something akin to Enhancement’s Voltaic Blaze:

  • Firstly, because Elemental lacks a non-capstone short CD Flame Shock applicator.
    • Enhancement now has two that are easy to access and convenient to use.
    • Lava Surge no longer benefits from having FS on multiple targets, so it should not be an issue to allow AoE FS.
  • Secondly, and more importantly for the issue OP highlights, Elemental needs a proc that encourages pressing Flame Shock rotationally for enhanced damage.

Honestly it feels like Voltaic Blaze should be an Elemental spell as much as (if not more than) Enhancement, given how thematically elemental it is combining two elemental forces in one. However, an even better option for Elemental is Voltaic Blaze’s precursor:

They key term here is “has a chance”. For Enhancement it was too RNG given that Enh doesn’t cast Chain Lightning that often. For Elemental in an AoE situation this is a non issue as Ele casts CL frequently as the main AoE builder.

It also aligns with Elemental’s “Storm, Earth and Fire!” theme… and is free for the taking since Voltaic Blaze replaced it.