Thought the general consensus, even between players and devs, was that Legendary crafting was a terrible thing and wouldn’t be repeated. Yet here we are with a simple crafting plan with a lower drop rate than Invincible and people selling the plan should the stars align and it drops for them for GOLD CAP.
For the love of baby jeebus, increase the drop rate for it or simply add it to the vendor for Storm Sigils.
There isnt a general consensus, a promise, a deal, or any of this other rubbish people dream up when it comes to game design in MMOs.
You dont have rights, you have agreement to a TOS. Thats literally it.
The lead dev could tweet tomorrow that he was setting drop rates for anything at all to 100%, and not do it and laugh.
Your choices are TOS, or not TOS.
I was speaking more to the tone of players giving feedback that legendary crafting was way too gold intensive and then Ion even agreeing with it in DF alpha/beta interviews and now here we are with a simple crafting plan going for gold cap.
You kinda went way outta pocket with that response there. But okay.
/shrug
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I’m surprised you’re complaining about lariat with this comparison and not tier sets.
To me I look at shadowlands legendaries and I look at tier sets and I see the exact same thing.
Except, at least I could solo grind for my legendary
The commission is about 50 k gold in my server
Yup, thats how bad it is
Even if you have to buy it off the AH, you will recoup your cost in no time. I placed a crafting order for one last night and there were already like 20 up all with 10-15k commissions.
The Elemental Lariat is not a legendary item.
It’s epic quality, and it’s not remotely necessary to have it.
It is on the same level as literally any other piece of crafted epic gear that requires a pattern in order to craft.
I guess that’s why no one on my server seems to be able to craft it yet?
The irony is that you want the recipe because it’s valuable, but it’s only valuable because it’s rare. That’s the unfortunate reality of crafting in an MMO, it’s either extremely gated so the plebs can’t access it, which makes it extremely lucrative. Or it’s basically every other recipe in dragonflight that is 5 gold commissions, and not even worth crafting.
I don’t know that I necessarily agree about this one item.
However, if no one saw this coming with the “quality” of items, then you have another thing coming.
The WoW community has been conditioned that if it it isn’t the “best” then it is trash (some of it community created, some of it the dev drive towards e-sport’ing the game).
This was inevitable.
It was also obvious that the crafting order system would be a massive flop. It is far too inconvenient and/or downright non-sensical.
the funniest part people always need something to complain about luckily the one i got on my sham was only like 50k
The recipe is selling for near, or at gold cap on illidan. There’s literally no recipes on the AH. I got lucky and sniped some sucker’s listing for 30k, and flipped to 4 million. But could have easily hit 10, had I known how rare it was.
Crafting order system flopped, because the person posting a work order isn’t allowed to set required quality. So people rapidly figured out that letting some scrub trying to level their crafting could scam you by taking your order and 1 starring it.
If you did that for public work orders, every single crafting order would just be set to max quality. Every time.
And it frankly wouldn’t really make a difference.
People tipping nothing, taking advantage of folks looking for skill ups.
Folks looking for skill ups, doing it for pennies, but then it not mattering.
Crafting order sniping (which fortunately it is only set to 20).
The convenience of the auction house - why bother with orders at all?
There are a lot of reasons why it was basically destined for failure. I don’t think allowing a quality on the crafting order system would have made much of a difference.
Maybe, but there would be way way way fewer people who could actually fill their orders. And the ones able to do so, wouldn’t be interested in skill ups, they’d be interested in commissions.
It isn’t the only thing they needed to do, but it would have been a start. Gating the only good crafted gear behind ultra time gated sparks was the other huge issue with the crafting. We need to wait like 6 weeks before we can actually get past time gated sparks, and by then, the gear would be worthless.
Sparks should have been farmable in m+ and raids, the second season started. Guaranteeing people could actually fill out lots of slots with crafted, especially on alts.
You can’t set the quality on public orders, but you can on guild/private orders.
And the reason for that is simple, there’s no way to guarantee the skill of anyone looking at public listings, where as if you happen to know a crafter or you’re in a guild with a crafter, you can trust those people to deliver quality items.
There is literally a quest in Valdrakken which has you reveal this information to an NPC.
That doesn’t make any sense. If minimum craft works on private orders, it would work on Public. Unless you’re saying that checking minimum quality doesn’t actually prevent the private party from creating below that quality? Which wasn’t my experience.
No it wouldn’t.
Public orders are giving your order to the masses, you do not know the crafter, so you’ve got no idea what the quality of the item you’d get is.
Imagine going into say, a woodworking fair and you put an order out that any crafter could take, asking for a pine chest. You could get a skilled artisan taking the job, or you could get some random guy who only picked up woodworking tools last week. You’ve got no control over who takes the job, or what their skill level is.
Now imagine going up to that artisan directly and handing out that same contract. Now because you’re talking directly to the artisan you can put additional requirements on the commission. You can say to him, for example: “I want a pine chest, it has to be these dimensions, with these engravings and embellishments, and I need strong joints as it’s going to be moved around a lot and it needs to have a dark stained finish.”
Now because you have reached out to the artisan directly, you can order specific quality items. Which is frankly an option you didn’t have when you just threw your order on a public board for any woodworker to take at their leisure.
Yes, it would. All they would need to do is set it up so that only people who have sufficient crafting stats to achieve the quality requested are able to take the order. Someone with insufficient stats either wouldn’t see the orders at all, or they would be greyed out with a tooltip explaining that they do not meet the customer’s requirements.