With the loss of Flame Shock from Primordial Wave and the loss of bad luck protection from Deeply Rooted Elements, spreading Flame shock feels quite awful now. Both in PvP and PvE. Not being able to spread Flame Shock effectively or often hurts Lava Surge procs and also Primordial Wave cleave (not played in pve currently but is played in pvp). Dispels in PvP also make Flame shock very annoying to manage, more so this patch than before.
Ele really needs better or updated ways to cleave Flame Shocks.
Maybe make DRE far less rng or not rng at all so we can reliably use it for flame shock cleave? Maybe make Liquid Magma Totem apply 4-5 flame shocks and every pulse it does adds another Flame Shock?
Maybe make it so Lava Burst cleaves Flame Shock to 1 additional target if it’s used on a target with Flame Shock up?
Just something here please, Ele relies pretty heavily on Flame Shock both in PvE and PvP but especially PvP for instant Lava bursts and Pwave cleave meanwhile Flame Shock spreading feels quite bad.
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Guess they tried to make liquid magma totem the way to spread flame shock but nobody takes it because of echos.
I’ve got a strange suspicion that this will be addressed in 11.1.7.
I hope so, I’m not sure why ele needs to struggle so much with flame shock spreading. And it’s not like we don’t have ways to correct this already in our spec tree via Liquid Magma Totem. Just make it apply 4 flame shocks and then 1 every time it pulses or something like that. Or make DRE not rng anymore/far less rng so ele damage variance isn’t as crazy as it is and we can use it for actually spreading flame shock.
They could also just add a baseline mechanic to lava burst maybe, or add it to the Liquid Magma Totem talent where every time you Lava burst a target with flame shock it spreads it to 1 target within x amount of yards.
So many things they could do here. It feels pretty awful in pvp due to dispel, and whenever priest is the meta healer it’s even worse since they have double dispel in their pvp talents, but any healer can dispel flame shock with no punishment anyway it does like 500k damage and a small knock up. It feels bad in pve too though.
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I have an idea.
What if primordial wave applied flame shock to enemies in range, and then primed your next lava burst to hit everything with flame shock applied?
Lmk if you guys think this is something blizzard would ever do.
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I’ve said that many times already lol, since the beginning of ptr when they removed lb cleave. But no, I dont actually think they’d do that, I don’t think they will revert the changes to Pwave unfortunately, so I’m just providing feedback on how to make the current version/gameplay better. That would be my very first choice though for sure if I thought they’d actually do it.
Making Pwave overload and then updating LMT would be great still though. LMT could certainly do a bit more legwork than its doing now, especially as a capstone talent. It should be applying a flame shock on each pulse and 4 on initial drop.
Or it can apply 4 flame shocks on initial drop and then have this added to it “Casting lava burst on a target with flame shock active causes your Flame Shock to spread to 1 additional target within 40 yards or x yards.” That would just be a passive effect of LMT, would not require it to be down.
Theres plenty they can do to make the current gameplay better if they aren’t going to revert pwave back to its original state.
I was hoping they would revert some of the changes, but they have not, so I have given up on ele sham. It feels bad with the pwave change and with the removal of ancestral guidance. Idk why they removed AG but gave nothing to make survivability better. No reduction on DRs, and no instant heal casts. No point in using healing stream totem, it is worse that a healthpot …
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Is that in pve or pvp? I think ele feels good survivability wise in PvP still, its quite tanky, but i cant speak for pve in that regard. I do wish they did something with AG instead of removing it though, turning it into a personal healing cd would’ve been nice so PvErs did not lose a defensive CD when they already don’t have much in that regard.
In terms of spreading flame shock, while I would love for them to revert Pwave, I dont think they will and thats honestly fine, there are things they can do that make the current gameplay better if they will actually do it.