Ele shaman flame shock range to be increased

Hey,

Are there any plans at all to increase the range of flame shock for elemental shamans, either through a rune or talent/spell update?

In wotlk the 6yd elemental reach talent applies to lava burst and also gives a larger 15yd increase in range to flame shock, making flame shock 45yd and lava burst 36yd. In sod storm reach only applies to lightning bolt and CL, meaning flame shock is a horrible 20yd and lava burst is 30yd. So it’s 45yd in wotlk and 20yd in sod, but both are required for lava burst gameplay.

Having lava burst be only 30yd isn’t too bad, but flame shock being 20yd feels so horrible. Considering you really have to apply flame shock to a target for lava burst to be worth casting, lava burst feels like it’s a 20yd range spell. It really doesn’t make much sense for flame shock to be only 20yd, which is why it’s base 30yd in wotlk and there is the talent making it over double the sod range. It would be great if you could address this issue in sod too please. If I’m forced into playing within 20yds then it’s almost worth just being an enhancement shaman at that point.

Cheers

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Hey there,

I am glad more shamans have this concern. I posted a thread earlier about how we can’t do anything in PvP due to kickback and long cast times. A few shammies proposed this as a solution too, you can look up our discussion there:

Thoughts on Elemental Shaman - WoW Classic / Season of Discovery - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)

I think it would help the alleviate our weakness at the moment. I would also like if Lava Burst also crits if you cast Flame Shock on the target after you cast it. It would prevent unkillable classes like priests/pallies to completely negate this effect.

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I love how none of this was considered by blizzard before hand

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This is one of the most reasonable buff requests I’ve ever heard tbh lol

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Bump, this is a huge issue for ele shamans

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Yep, it’s a big issue. Hoping they fix that Laval Burst doesn’t crit when you cast Flame Shock on target before the spell lands.

Bump

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I don’t think that is something that will be ‘fixed’, as I believe that is by design. It’s the same in wotlk, it’s snapshotted at the time of lava burst cast going off. I’m fine with it though, as it works both ways - if flame shock times out on my target when lava burst is in the air then I still want it to be a crit (as it currently is).

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I get what you mean, but my issue with is is that priests can dispel your Flame Shock before your Lava Burst even finishes from casting. Therefore defeating it’s entire burst purpose in PvP.

Give all of these changes to all mage abilities too, thanks.

I was literally thinking this today leveling my shaman, how incredibly annoying the range of flame shock is.

Blizzard doesn’t play horde, only ally.

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wait until next phase when elemental shamans are 2 shotting players from 36 yards @_@

I mean if they had to nerf the lava burst dmg with it then I would take that trade-off. It’s not a case of being able to delete people from range, it’s a case of clunky gameplay that just doesn’t make sense.

I won’t be surprised if they actually buff lightning spells and nerf lava burst at level 60 anyway. First 2 raids at 60 are fire immune, and they massively nerfed lightning bolt and CL from what they used to be in vanilla (I assume partly because of lava burst and partly because of overload), so ele PVE dmg in MC and BWL is going to be woeful.

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Actually, we would still have to be at 20 yd to 2 shot a player, because we would want our Lava Burst to crit. I think fire spells should go to 30 yd, and lightning ones stay at 36 after talents.

I agree with Lb, I wouldn’t mind a little trade-off for some more gameplay fluidity.

I heard from my boomie friend that they can burst people from 40 yd atm :open_mouth:

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Bumping this forum post as an ele shaman player, it is incredibly annoying dealing with trying to setup burst when everyone just out ranges it. I’d be more fine with it if the spell casting pushback wasn’t so harsh but this gameplay feels completely awful.

Umm. yeah its annoying but its also balance in a way, keeps us much closer in range.

Personally id rather have 40yd name plates than a longer range FS