Been doing a good PVP grind this weekend since yesterday and yikes. Lost all but one AB game.
The devs should probably look at that, I mean if both groups are just random dads queing for a BG, I don’t see how the win/loss ratio can be so… one sided? The grind to rank 14 continues… Godspeed all! 
How is that they gutted shaman and your the most op class there is?
Alliance team see that the Horde team has any of the following and just give up:
Orcs
Undead
Shaman
maybe Alliance would actually try to win if the Horde team was 15 Troll Warriors?
If all things are equal and both the Alliance and Horde are made up of a bunch of dads on their respective sides, yet the Alliance consistently takes the bigger losses, then we can reasonably rule out skill as the deciding factor. It’s a bit ridiculous to assume, on a national or global scale, that the Horde’s dads are somehow significantly better than the Alliance’s dads by such a huge margin.
What you said is only true when people actually decided randomly for factions and all circumstances are the same. And both of that is not true.
Horde in Classic Wow was always the faction that attracted more PVP focused players. Because of Racial skills. People that focus on PVP are better at PVP (more practice/experience, etc).
This turns around when Humans get a free trinket btw in later expansion.
In addition Horde players have a queue so they have to work hard to win bgs to gain a good honour/hour rate and reach their honor limit. In short. Horde players have to tryhard.
Alliance on the other side have instant queues, so intentionally loosing was good for them when they got 2 badges (5k honor). That happened a lot. Even now they get 2.5k honor per game and you can loose 6-7 games an hour. That is still 15k honor per hour by doing nothing. Horde players with the same attitude would play 2 games netting 5k honour an hour.
So Horde players are more motivated to win.
If you wanted to judge faction balances you should strictly look at matches where players are equally skilled and trying. That said even in premade vs premade the Alliance group often surrenders since they have instant queues and don’t want to waste time.
Ultimately many players don’t care about winning or loosing. They just want to minimize their time spent each week.
I’m sorry, but the math just doesn’t add up. There’s no way the Horde’s dads, both nationally and globally, are so vastly superior that the Alliance’s dads are losing 9 out of 10 Arathi Basin matches. I’m willing to factor in the social aspect, where the Alliance might be less motivated, but even then, if you take a random group of dads and throw them into AB, the Horde still come out on top 9 out of 10 times. At that point, it’s not mathematically reasonable to chalk it up to a social or skill difference—it’s just too wide of a gap.
Alliance is just not trying. When I was ranking my Rogue I was able to cap in front of 1-3 players almost every game. These guys are not even looking at their screen.
In a lot of cases Sapping was worse than just Capping because SAP triggers a sound effect.
I get what you’re saying, but on the flip side, I’ve been on the Alliance side and pulled off the exact same thing against the Horde—just walked up, capped a flag, and they weren’t even paying attention. Those kinds of situations aren’t unique to the Alliance. Both sides have their moments of slipping up, so it’s not something you can pin down as exclusively an Alliance issue.
Horde will try to win but if alliance put up any fight or it looks like its a premade. They will also give up. The problem with alliance is and this goes back to vanilla only like 10% really care about pvp. I love seeing fury wars, tanks and hybrids that refuse to throw a heal or dispel. Yes, that can also happen on horde side but its less likely.
I just can’t bring myself to run AB on my paladin. I at least want to try to win and can’t stand people that obviously queue up just to lose. “why dont you join a premade” you say? my paladin is in r6 gear… premades wont take me. =P lol
Plus, I love pug’n i can turn off my brain and chill. Never lose on purpose, always try to win.
You solo queueing? Not sure how you’d find any relevancy in game statistics unless everyone is solo, I’m at five loses in a row because of making that decision of not premading.
or if they stopped playing like 90% human
Everyone has always known for years that if you play a vanilla server you pick horde for an inherent advantage in pvp
Because us as alliance do not have an ego about wow and are grown men with things to do outside the game too! We just want to get our pve gear as fast as possible, we don’t care if we lose just have fast games and save everyone the headache and continue to play the game as it’s meant to be played, PVE. Horde faction tends to have a large amount of pride on the line so they prefer dragging out every game just for the W for the horde! Anyways most of us are done ranking on alliance as of last Tuesday and any of the “good” horde would of finished then too. Should only get easier for you folks don’t stress it! Hope you have a great day Deejadin 
And exactly this is what I don’t get. You spent hours to PvP. You don’t enjoy it. And you still suffer through that. You should just not play the game (or PvP) when you don’t enjoy it. For your own health’s sake.
And what type of excuse is this? “Something to do outside the game”. You spend hours and hours to play this game and don’t even bother to be good at it? And you excuse yourself because you don’t care? You sir, spent multiple hours to get this PvP gear. You do care about the game. You even care enough to read this forum. So get out there and try to have fun and kick the Horde’s butt. Worst excuse I’ve read in a long time.
When this is the average alliance player then you will loose always obviously.
I only play alliance, and the vast majority of ally players give up the moment they don’t cap Blacksmith or the moment they lose Mid in wsg. We aren’t losing because Horde are better, we are losing because of the toxic give-up mentality that has become one with the average alliance gamerdad. If it is hard for you to acknowledge that, pay attention to the chat the next time you play a BG.
The game is designed for both PvP and PvE, balanced or not. even if you don’t enjoy PvP, don’t project the way you enjoy the game onto others. There is room for both
Why are you even wasting your time then? PvP gear is good for PvE for like 2 classes. Why not just PvE?
I play both sides and my experience has been Alliance just give up almost immediately if they don’t win an initial clash. Horde tends to fight it out.
I bet you if their queues weren’t instant. They would try more… because the PvE andies wont have the patience to wait in queues.
its 100% an attitude issue, alliance tap out quick. Now, they might not be able to change the W/L to 50/50 but the games will atleast be much more 1800 to 2000. If they gave effort for the 30 minutes they’re in the can definitely avg more than 1-2 tokens.
premades are the deciding factor. selecting makeup and voice make a difference.
as a pug my boomie last 10 secs as I am focused and destroyed by rogues after my first spell.
get real, it’s the premades queuing against the pugs and probably selling rank for RMT.