Easiest Melee DPS

ok few things here

why are u saying ’ we ’ like you have a dog in this race
warrior is WAAAAAAAAY competitive as far as you getting your first glad goes
top 100 representation will NEVER impact your ability to get 2400 i promise

secondly, lowest in the game?
didn’t know there were 15 specs in the game

wanna know whats lower? enhance ret frostdk they’re not even on the list

warrior has only a couple less players > 2800 than dh/dk/ele/sv

at >2600 it has the same rep as windwalker and beats out dk and feral by a large margin

idk why bad warrior players are always mega victims but i promise you warrior is good

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While warrior is good, it is definitely not the easiest class to climb. Very, very gear dependent. Rogue or dh would be easiest imho.

Gwen dude isn’t talking about easy, he is straight saying warrior is bad.

Can we please have an iq test before being able to post on these forums please? If your iq is below room temperature you cant post.

That first part is your answer. Warrior isn’t easy to start with, and it’s very easy to mess up, overextend and end up a splat on the ground. Rogue Mage (which is an exceedingly common comp around 1600-1800 in my experience), is kinda their natural counter, and you lose hard to the kidney/smokebomb. Also, and very importantly, you need your gear as Arms to climb. You need that N’zoth trinket, Drest’agath, a bike, maybe a good Getti, at minimum at 475 wep with vers on it if not, and everything else you have has to have really high vers with vers corruptions. If not, you are paper and fold to anything.

Rogue for example has a couple of gear choices that can work. You can go full Gushing, or maybe Tendi if they have no clean way to kill it, or build vers if you really want to be hard to kill. At the end of the day the sheer CC you bring can pull through.

So yea, a fully optimized warrior isn’t weak by any means, but a less than ideal one is an absolute nightmare, and hence why they act like mega victims… cause they kinda are.

Which patch? Outlaw isn’t like… represented at all.

the “prm” part got me good it’s a hidden gem

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the next time I see some neanderthal say warrior is bad I’m literally going to scream

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You don’t need those at all, they are crutches. Just like melee didn’t “need” tank trinkets.

Better get ready with those pipes.

WArRiOr iS bAd

This thread is inspiring my jank handed self to try pushing again.

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Prot havahahaha

b r o t h e r

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ignoring the viability of specs in the current meta as this has nothing to do with their ease of play this is my list

t1
dh: no explanation needed
fury war: basically just a dam bot like dh, not much utility compared to arms so much lower skill cap
frost dk: if unholy is the sub of dk frost is the assa variant. do dmg, chill streak at good times and that’s about it

t2
assa: while im tempted to put assa in t1 because it’s very easy to pick up and play (as well as having access to what many ppl consider the best comp currently) due to the kit that rogues have baseline such as bomb, blind, vanish, cheap shot etc there is a higher skill cap than the t1 specs, a “good” assa rogue can make noticeable outplays by using these abilities well
enhance: basically a dam bot like fwar and fdk but brings a lot more utility to the table (range kick, ground, off heals, good tremor/hex usage)

ret: ret has lost a lot of its outplay abilities from the past like sac, rep (forced to spec into it but only taken in niche situations cuz fast hoj too important) dispelling cc etc you’re mainly just a burst dmg bot wheelchair. still has decent utility with kings, off healing but nothing that crazy. highest skill cap u can do are things like pre sancing cc which can separate really good rets from mediocre ones

t2.5 being specs that are conventionally considered mongo but have more utility and outplay potential than the aforementioned specs

arms war: pretty simple to play at its core but has a lot of outplay potential with so many abilities (reflect/disarm/duel/banner/pre d stancing/maximizing dps in battle while minimizing punishment etc) there are significant gaps between good and mediocre arms wars
unh dk: has a rep for being mongo but has a unique playstyle and dmg rotation that can take a bit of getting used to, also has lots of ways to help team and some outplay potential

t3
feral: bit of a harder rotation relative to previous specs, many ways to impact the game and outplay (rooting/cloning/pre bearing/kiting/off healing) a good feral can carry a game
ww: unique dmg rotation that takes getting used to, so much utility and ways to impact the game (rop/disarm/off healing/rooting/kiting) a good ww can carry a game
sv: slightly harder rotation than previous tiers, lots of outplay potential and many ways to impact the game. also have a unique playstyle (similar to old ret) where you’re essentially a ranged melee spec, this adds to the skill cap

outlaw/sub: both specs have way more utility than assa which makes their skill cap much higher, can’t win by just simply doing your pve rotation. gap between a decent and high lvl outlaw/sub rogue is massive

t4
pre legion sub: sub has become a lot more forgiving and easier to play now with multiple dance charges, a simplified rotation and pruning of abilities and spells that added to the skill cap. i think most people would agree that old sub is the most skill dependent melee to play, difference between a good and bad sub rogue is astronomical and imo sub has the highest outplay potential of all melee specs bc of the control and plays you can make with dance and previously pruned abilities like gouge/dismantle etc

Skill capped ranked DH + Rogue S tier and enhance C tier. Arms B tier with UHDK and Ret. WW + Frost DK and Feral A tier.

Mr. dark am I still the only ret you have qued into this season. Because I can actually count all the Rets who are currently playing because there are so few of us currently playing. But it’s ok we can just reroll hpalla xdddddddd

Even though I q with warriors a lot, I really hate a lot of warrior players

You definitely don’t need nzoth trinket at 1800 I guarantee you

Bold words coming from a destro reroll.

Arms warrior or Windwalker are probably easiest because they can fit into any comp

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that’s some pretty elementary school logic there. their ability to fit into a team has nothing to do with how hard the spec itself to play is lol