Earthen disobedience problem

What kind of red herring were you even trying to throw out? Me saying I am not convinced that Neltharion did any of the stuff that a Faceless One N’Raqi did while pretending to be Neltharion is not changed by you pasting a bunch of stuff Sarkareth says. The same Sarkareth that calls out into a void rift for Neltharion to answer, and gets no answer…

We have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Neltharion had any such thing. All we have evidence for is a Faceless One N’Raqi who was pretending to be Neltharion while the dragon isles were closed off to all outsiders. Seriously…do you never try to figure out what you are being told by unreliable narrators? Ever?

They literally have a magical rune taken from a shelf in a room with thousands of other runes that gets installed in each and every new player character Earthen. You’ll see when the beta new player experience becomes part of live.

What we are “shown” is the memory of Emberthal since Nozdormu is somehow not able to travel back in time at all to that moment. What is “shown” is exactly what we see when we enter Aberrus… a Faceless One N’Raqi pretending to be Neltharion.

Except the memory is Neltharion himself, and the event also is described in war of the scaleborn, so 2 versions of the same event confirm that Neltharion is the one using the oathbinder.

The faceless one was in aberrus disguised as a neltharion projection, just that, him being there doesn’t imply past appearances of neltharion in other places is false.

We have absolutely no reason to believe that.

It absolutely does, and must do so… or the writing was completely ineffectual.

Isnt the event being told twice, confirming that it is Neltharion indeed and being the time Neltharion succumbed to the void proof enough?

A projection from Aberrus versus memories from the Forbidden reach? I dont really see how those are connected besides being about Neltharion, which is the entirety of Aberrus and forbidden reach.

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It is “never” confirmed to be Neltharion. Perhaps you should be discussing this over in that unreliable narrator thread where even the gatekeepers of your forum lament how the replacement writers are constantly writing things in unreliable fashion. The N’Raqi Faceless One pretending to be Neltharion can place objects for Emberthal to find just as much as it can order Emberthal around in the past and therefore have Nozdormu look at her memory of seeing the image of Neltharion as her leader. You don’t have two examples that differ; you have two examples of the exact same unreliability.

Why do you always resort to trolling when you are proven wrong? Did you even read what I posted, which also shows that Emberthal knew what the Oathbinder was and what it could do. And what do you know, it did the exact thing she knew it could do. Go figure. It was also found in a vault that only Neltharion and his Dracthyr scalecommanders had access to. Emberthal’s presence is how we were able to enter it in the first place after all.

It is so fun to see you deny evidence in the game itself after you constantly whine about how you only consider things in game as ‘canon’.

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There is very little room to argue when a book provides the lore with the character’s own internal thought monologues. By definition that is just how third person perspectives work.

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Unless the third person writing the book is the faceless one!!!

/jk

Sadly Aliatheknife views that only the games are 100% canon. If it is is a book it is non-canon no matter what. Even if the events of said book are referenced in the game or other external media.

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Yeah… Weird thing there is then they pull from chronicle.

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No she doesn’t. She only approves of lore that fits neatly into whatever current fanfiction they happen to be pushing at the moment

As soon as the game proves her wrong, suddenly events in game never happened

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The Titans will come out as the bad guys in Last Titan just wait and see.

You didn’t “prove me wrong” on anything… you literally typed something that has no effect on what I said. Me pointing out that we don’t know that Neltharion did things that the image of Neltharion is remembered by Emberthal doing is not changed by you saying the oathbinder is a real object. The image of Neltharion (i.e. the N’Raqi Faceless One) had the object. That image of Neltharion doing things is not Neltharion doing things. You have a very bad habit of copy pasting things from a wiki that are not relevant to the points being made. Yet again… the image of Neltharion (i.e. the N’Raqi Faceless One) had access to everything you mention. It’s like you completely failed to process the consequences of the raid defeat of the image of Neltharion…

You are projecting the “EXACT” behavior in which you engage on the forum.

You blatantly ignore lore that disproves your fanfiction

That’s a you problem

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You defend high elves all the time. Ultimate bad faith argument.

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No erevien. Simply no. Not even worth the effort to type why you’re blatantly wrong as usual

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Your fan fiction is not lore…and it does not disprove the lore I talk about. It is beyond bizarre for people so entrenched in their fan fiction to project as much as you do. It reveals your psyche, unfortunately.

I am starting to think that Aliatheknife and Vanodoc are the same person. They both love to call things they don’t like ‘fan fiction’ even when it is the actual lore.

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I know. It’s really bizzare how both say the same exact thing about actual lore events

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Pot, meet kettle.