Dynamics of the Horde Council

Are we going to see more of the Horde Councils dynamics in play going into Dragonflight?

What have we really seen so far? Do more senior leaders of the Horde hold more seniority or lead it? The short story with Lor’themar suggests he has a lot of responsibility in its governance? While in game during SL duration I can’t say I recall much save for the pre patch stuff at the beginning where we reported stuff to them and Calia stood by randomly who herself now sits on a Forsaken Council(?)

they stand around the basic campfire and talk about joining the alliance

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There’s so much to do with the Horde council. The writers have barely ever scratched the surface in terms of race dynamics within the factions so the task is immense. Especially now with the Allied Races (and I’m not even talking about the non-playable yet strategic races like the Ogres, Hozen and Taunka that definitely should have a seat on the council).

I want to believe this is the direction they’re taking but I’m a little skeptical. For example, has Geya’rah even been sighted in DF yet ?

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It is simple. Everyone listen to what Baine and Thrall have to say after they have taken their direct orders from Anduin.

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I’ll be shocked if faction stuff on either side are in Dragonflight. There’s no sign of it in the launch patch at all, this is very much not a story involving them.

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We’ll have to wait for either a future patch or expansion where Alliance and Horde get directly involved in the overall storyline before we get a good look at how things work in the council.

It depends on if Blizzard can honestly make something interesting out of them or if they maintain being a bunch of goobers who fail more on writing faction politics.

Can you blame them?
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Not too much as the current concern is with the Zandalari.

Nothing from the Sand Trolls, Leper Gnomes, and Grimtotem yet. There are Grimtotem working with Primalists, Lepers were sworn to Sylvanas and the Sandfury were still sour about the horde pillaging their lands so we’ll need to keep a closer watch on their actions.

History has shown that whenever there’s a council of any sort, Blizzard just focuses on one member of it while ignoring everyone else.

See: the Kirin Tor, the Three Hammers, Silvermoon’s leaders.

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I wouldn’t hold your breath. We haven’t seen the dynamics of any of the other councils in the game so far.

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Bruh I just want the Warchief back. :joy:

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Pft. Warchief is just soooo 2019.

All the cool kids are doing councils these days.

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I just can’t shake off the feeling that the Council was the story team’s over correction in lieu of plotline pushback in BFA and not a natural evolution of the game’s narrative. And it just further erodes the identities between the two factions. --short version.

Let me Lok-tar with the bro’s like dem good ol days.

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FWIW, I agree.

Does Warchief Jorin Deadeye count?

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I don’t know, at that point maybe they should just turn Garrosh’s old ampitheatre into a Horde Nations summit and give every clan/tribe/faction/sub-race a seat.

In fact the more I think on it the more I prefer that idea. The racial leaders should be busy ruling their own kingdoms, and thus dispense a special ambassador to represent their interests to the wider Horde. But I guess a council of bigwigs is ambitious enough for a franchise that’s historically shafted its councils in favor of one versatile mouthpiece.

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Yeah I agree. Warchief was one of those more individual and unique things about the Horde. Removing it was just completely shortsighted, but I mean so was making Sylvanas Warchief in the first place so.

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The council should have way more internal conflict than choosing an actual respectable warchief.

Almost every single member of the council is guilty of following not one but two unrespectable warchiefs. I don’t see how they can be trusted in making any reasonable choices when it comes to their chosen strongman.

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True and it’ll likely keep up that way. We’ll simply get Thrall, Baine, or Lor’themar telling us “the Horde council reached a decision about blah blah in bibbity buu somewhere about grffrbl something.”

Still a nice thought to actually get just one moment to see it do something ingame though…

Personally I think the Horde is collectively tired of being “honorbound” to constantly follow the whims of just one individual, up to and including marshalling for war whenever said person comes up with a reason.

At least now a group of peoples have to a consensus if the entire faction is going to war or not.

…at least theoretically. Right up until the blizzard behind the curtain F’s it up again. :roll_eyes:

Honestly it’s just another word that can be superimposed with “Fuhrer” or “Lord Marshell” or “Grand Poobah” or “High Dictator Pappy”. Not a lot there that’s special.