DW or 2 hand.....why cant we have both again?

back when deathknights were first released in WotLK, all specs could either dw or use 2handers.

witht he addition of amazing new runeforges in shadowlands and 2handers returning to frost, why cant we have dw unholy and blood again?

im gonna guess at balancing and the changing of mechanics…but it would be great to be able to tank with both stoneskin garg and sanguination or be unholy with apocalypse and fallen sader.

ok time for people to flame me…

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not having weapon choice is largely due to personal loot. Another fun sucking genius idea by nublizz.

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has hard as it is for frost i dunno if dw for blood would work well. does dancing rune weapon pop 2 while dw or just one

They already have enough trouble balancing 2H vs DW Frost, imagine having to do it over 3 specs. Not to mention the redesigns Blood and Unholy would require as none of their abilities are balanced around having 2 hits (main + off hand).

And then there would be the whole personal loot thing. At least now if you want a 2H, you can pop into Unholy loot spec and get it, avoiding any 1H weapons.

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I proposed Blood to DW as well and people were vehemently against it. But then again, if Blood could dw, people would ask for shields too.

Frankly, Dks are spellcasting dreadnoughts whom are more powerful than they ever were in life: warriors, mages, you name it.

But as Faker said: “Balance is a fool’s master.

I would love DW back for Unholy… Would love to use the new Apoc rune alongside Fallen Crusader so I can give something neat to my pet :frowning:

That new rune for apoc should’ve been baseline into apoc and army of the dead for unholy. It will not be used much as a rune option when fallen crusader provide more strength passive as uptime of proc.

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Be honest, you want Machine Gun Spec back. :slight_smile:

Either that or have rune of apoc affect ALL Dk pets. Including Gary. Including Magus. Including Leggoes that make minions.

It does need a lot of work.

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I blame the people that only wanted to look at 2h instead of the spec. Granted the people for unholy have been chatting up a storm about the problems, or at least perceived problems and nothing has really been done.

I think they should either let us DW again as UH or bake Rune of Apoc into Apoc itself and yes I’d like machine gun back :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Edit: or either bake Fallen crusader into Vet of the third war so we can use the new Hysteria rune as frost DW and Apoc as unholy

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I would love to see a dw tank. But this is just me.

Brewmaster will be allowed to dw once the pre-patch hits. Granted, it’s a different class and not a blood dk.

This is true. But monks you do not see as much interaction with their weapons as other classes. I while playing frost kept seeing my dk parry attacks and thathad me wanting to see an actual dw tank that uses weapons. I guess I should state I would love to see DW Blood DK/Prot Paladin tanks.

I see where you’re coming from now.

Honestly, I do wish that all 3 DK specs had the choice between dw/2h like they used to. I had a friend who had fun tanking as a blood DK with 2 Souldrinkers back in Cata. It’s fun to have a choice like we used to have for all 3 specs.

Thank goodness 2h frost is coming back, but dw blood/unholy should return as well.

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I will say I would be interested in seeing how blood performed as a dw spec. But as been mentioned above balance would be a nightmare for all 3 specs. Although it seems they are closer to balancing frost.

I do agree with returning options all 3 should be able to dw or 2h. Even though I do not like it for the class in general more player options.

Frost being a DPS spec means DW and 2H now have different play-styles. 2H is being focused on big bursty hits with Obliteration and DW is focused on Frost Strikes and up-time on runic power abilities i.e. Breath. 2H will probably pull ahead in ST and DW in AOE at some point just by nature of the design.

Would there be a distinct play style difference for DW and 2H Blood tanking or is it more a cosmetic thing?

To make it work you would have to have different ways of mitigating damage and probably change how DS scales from a healing perspective.

Pure conjecture. 2hander will probably be slightly ahead in the beginning of the expansion because the lack os secondary stats, especially haste and then dual wild will dominate LIKE IT ALWAYS DID.

If Blood could DW it would have a similar problem as frost in regard to runeforges, with probably fallen crusader on the main hand and stone skin gargoyle on the offhand. It wouldn’t be so pronounced, but it would definitely be there.

Tbh it seems like Blizzard could make things easier by redesigning the rune system entirely. It’s not like there’s even any depth to it at the moment anyways.

When the beta first came out Frost DK’s could transmog a 2h into blades of the the fallen prince (DW). You would just attack with your main hand though. Not sure if it has changed in a recent build or PTR.

Ideally I’d like to see all 3 specs given the option to transmog 2h into any 1h weapons.

It would also be cool to choose if the weapon sheaths on your back or hip.

Pure conjecture

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