Shadowlands loot changes are all around a death blow to people who pug and don’t play in coordinated groups.
The loot system is tragic. With so few drops, and very little chance of loot sharing, queuing for an hour each time to run hour long wipe fests and easily go 3 or 4 runs with no loot is exactly nobody;'s idea of fun.
This expo kills casual pugging. Gl folks, hopefully the game can survive with just the leet guild raiders.
You mention queuing, so heroic dungeons? If it’s a wipe fest in heroic dungeons I don’t think the group deserves to get loot tbh.
The only time i have a wipe fest in pugs is when are healer is a paladin. That spec is terrible in pugs. Yeah i feel you though its super annoying defeating all the bosses and get 0 gear while everyone else got 1 or 2 pieces of gear.
how are you even wipe in heroics.
Anyway, it’s already time to finish your second week of m0s and get ready for keys. Not wiping in heroics, lul
So far since the start of shadowlands I’ve done a ton of heroics and two world tours of mythics all with pugs never even bringing in a single guildy due to my guild dieing long while back.
In the time I can count the bosses that have had more than two wipes on one hand (ya there really is less than 5 including the mythics, and guess what two of them is the same boss meat hook aiming guy on mythic as pugs have issue with him). If we talk about even wiping the number is still under 20 total and that is well over 200 boss kills already. As such if your wiping that many times in pugs and often I have to question if the issue here is not pugs but the common factor between them all you. Even if you are doing your job perfectly are you doing what you can to prevent wipes are you taking a sec to give a quick one liner pre the fight to tell what what to expect. A message a simple as focus the mind contrôlée players and run small mobs to boss goes a long long way to preventing wipes. Even if you expect people to know what’s going on people do stuff different ways spending half a second to get people on the same page alone will stop most wipes. Beyond that are you helping the healer by staying out of bad but also dispelling a bad debuff you can if you see or droping a external to save the dps standing in bad. If not you can expect more issues.
The loot system is not a issue we are seeing more drops constantly than ever before with everyone I know that has tryed to max out ilvl being over ilvl 180 with me and a few others at 186 as such not possible to get higher other than buying one boe for a slight boost. The lack of tf/wf make it quite a bit easier to get bis or at least equal ilvl side grades.
how are people wiping in heroic. There’s hardly any brain cells needed to do those dungeons
Indeed. More people on the learning curve need to be trashed. That will bring the community back to the mythological hivemind vanilla community.
Ngl they are very easy
Nerco wake trash can be brutal, but that’s about all I can guess.
We must be playing different games.
holy paladin sucks when everyone is taking dmg. Atleast the ones i played with.
I ran dungeons all day today and the longest que was 8 min. It hasn’t been this way since ICC.
I have no clue what you are talking about. Things seem just fine. In fact, got two leggo drops.
Also, please stop with the veiled “ml makes things better”, it doesn’t.
When not one person interrupt necrotic bolt and the healer can’t purge it or heal through it.