It sounds like the lazy DPS in that group should have been doing their job.
Seems like others agree with me its the DPS’s job. We’re all in the wrong?
I do, I keep health bars up.
None of which is your business. Why are you sticking your nose in other people’s games like a piece of doodoo nerd like you are?
Can’t help you with your ignorance, sorry.
Quick update to the log.
I’ve been reported and now I expect to be hit with a silence ban, if not worse, so the dungeoneering log is going be postponed until the sanction has been lifted.
Let me be clear, my behavior today wasn’t the best, I recognize that I let myself get dragged down to the worm-level like the druid here T…
But let it be known…
I didn’t take any of your nerd bull…and will now pay the price by gaslighting reporting by the mentally ill nerds who command this game.
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I vouch wafectus. Bow down, suckers
If healers used all downtime to dps with the low mana efficiency of our offensive spells they’d have to drink after every pull. To run the dungeon without too much sitting and drinking healers manage mana not just to get through the fights but to keep moving through several pulls. There’s a balance we have to find between conserving mana and doing dps when we’re not doing a lot of healing. Our offensive spells add so little dps that it’s often better to not cast them and save the mana so we don’t have to stop the group while we drink.
A healers job is to heal and dispel magic or curses. They can help out the dps if there’s time between heals and if mana permits but it’s not their job.
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The less time DPS needs to spend on images, the faster mobs die, the less images spawn, the less you need to heal as a healer.
Healer stands AFK 80% of the dungeon anyway. When I kill images solo, healing Nexus is an absolute joke. All DPS are also happy cuz they actually DPS and not run around chasing images.
If a group[ asked you to help them with Images and you said “not my job”, your kick is well deserved. and I would have done the same Dungeons are still a team effort.
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I’m at HoS right now and while our Ret is at 17 mil damage overall, I’m at 5 mil.
Do I have to DPS as a healer? Eh, not really. It’s not a lot of dps. But it still saves us time.
I’m an ex-retail player. As recent as Shadowlands S3. I was main Hpala and Rdru in 23-25’s keys with pugs. So I got a habit of doing it. Even been doing that in TBCC.
Shamans will NOT go oom using shocks, AAing and dropping fire totme /w Nova. But all of this adds up and your run ends up being 5 minutes shorter. Cuz why not?
The faster things die, the less you have to heal.
That’s the difference between an “okay” player and a good player.
edit:
just saw this
holy fork you’re one cry baby oh my god this is hilarious. Man…woah. I can only imagine a bearded 30 year old stomping his feet and SMASHING that keyboards with rage LMAO
The DPS should be kicked for even asking the healer to kill mirror images.
When images pop up is when the healer is likely to be the most busy, cause you know, that’s when the damage spikes.
I don’t ask the tank to self heal with bandages and I don’t ask the healer to DPS adds that the actual DPS should be killing. The only excuse DPS have for not doing so is pure laziness. And if the group was wiping because the healer didn’t kill a couple images that’s not the healers fault, that group was awful to begin with because of the DPS.
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The small amount of time saved is often lost when the healer has to stop the group to drink more often. Especially when I’m playing my holy priest, less so but also with my druid, I’ll rarely dps so I can go through many pulls without having to drink. Tanks always want to push ahead so they don’t lose their aggro so I’ve learned to conserve mana as much as possible so I don’t have to stop the group to drink. I’ll dps more with pally tanks because they’re often stopping to drink and I can top off when they do.
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This is what differentiates a bad player from a good one.
It’s very easy to spot retail players in Classic. Very easy. I suppose we’re just used to a dozen things happening at the same time and classic is our retirement.
I never had mana issues. No idea what you doing with your mana, but killing a few images will not make you go oom. Unless you’re a fresh 80. But a fresh 80 won’t get invited to H++. There is a GS gate and we all know it.
But either way, I said my piece. I will leave it to you.
In my nook, if all healer does is sit and heal, that’s a bad player. So I have zero sympathy for OP. And I say that as a main healer for past 12 years.
/shrug or maybe there’s people who don’t treat dungeons like progression mythic raids and you just need to lighten up.
You also seem unfamiliar with how the mirror images work. Usually on the initial pull all the mobs pop them at the same time so there’s a big damage spike. IE when the healer will have the least free time to do the DPS’s job for them since they’re actually *gasp doing the job they were actually brought to do.
I guarantee the group wasn’t wiping because the healer wasn’t killing a few mirror images.
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If you’ve never had mana issues that means you only heal dungeons with over powered over geared groups. I leveled my priest holy in vanilla, BC, and classic because I did a lot of dungeons with groups that were low for the dungeon or with under geared tanks. I never gate keep and as a healer I was often the lowest level player in the group. If you’re desperate for a healer level or gear score is a much lower requirement. I enjoy the challenge of nursing an under geared tank through a dungeon he was a little low for.
If you need to spam heals in H++, then the group is already over.
An actual human group would allow the healer to have time to do something that isn’t healing.
This is why gate keepers set gear scores much higher than is needed to complete the run. They don’t want to struggle. They don’t want a challenge. They want to be so over powered and over geared that it’s an easy walk through. I won’t heal for groups that demand too high a gear score even when I can meet it. I don’t like people like that and don’t want to play with them.
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Call us what you want, my healer is half afk in instances so idk man, I’d rather just get it done over seeking some weird challenge from a mode that is not supposed to present a challenge.
It’s because you are a piece of doodoo elitist that doesn’t heal the general public.
Your stupidity and bad logic tell me that you only heal in a niche environment where everything is controlled. You’re not in the trenches with the plebs and casuals like I am; because if you were, you wouldn’t be spewing the ignorance coming out of your mouth.
Oh now you’re going to chime in too, expert?
You’re the same kind of doodoo that druid T is.
And I still wouldn’t help dps out of pure principal.
Oh wow, I just wrote my piece without seeing you beat me to it.
Guess great minds think alike.
We never wiped at all while I was healing, even through the images’ damage.
The wipe came when the tank moved on ahead and pulled without me because I was still busy arguing with the piece of crap leader over the images. And based on that wipe, he accused me of griefing and threw me out.
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The game doesn’t decide when a dungeon isn’t “supposed” to present a challenge. That’s a player made choice. There’s a point where a group cannot complete a dungeon, a point where a good group can if they stay very focused and play at thier best, and a point where it’s easy. Some people like to play the game so it’s easy and won’t even make an attempt unless they’re over leveled and over geared. I’ve always tried to do the dungeons as early as possible. The gear drops are more useful then and I find the challenge fun. I don’t have any problem with the gate keepers. When they announce some ridiculously high gear score demand it let’s me know what people and groups to avoid. For example if you were on my server and looking for a healer I’d refuse to join your group. You’ve told me all I need to know that I wouldn’t want to play with you.
Wow, it really sounds like everyone in the group was toxic except you.
Also, +1 for smacking mirror images while healing. I consider myself a very mediocre player but it is not an imposte to moonfire or melee one or two mirrors for the benefit of the whole party.
If someone has a problem with my heals…
Go with the next healer--------------->
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Don’t worry, with an attitude like that, I’m sure they will do.
You’ll be so much more replaceable with RDF. No more dungeon logs for you!
My reputation isn’t unkown in my server…
And somehow I usually always end up getting invited for my PvE content anyways…
You see without RDF… I find myself as the only healer listed at times in the LFG.
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My point being, you made a thread saying we need RDF because you got stuck with toxic and bad players. But it sounds like you’re toxic and bad player yourself, and believe you can get away with it due to healer deficit.
Are you saying we need RDF so none of us has to play with you?
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