Dungeon Loot Feels Terrible

[Velendrix-dalaran]

thats crazy bro

[Travia-blackwater-raiders]

Blame the people who don’t appear to be even playing the expansion. I remember one former MvP complaining about too much loot several times in BfA and I haven’t seen him post in months now.

[Latsyrc-turalyon (Latsyrc)]

My current record is 9 full clears with 0 loot other than gold. I was 3/4 bosses in to the 10th before I got a drop. It was a chest piece. My Legendary is my chest piece - I still counted it though.

The whole system feels broken.

[Enigmaus-thrall]

Yeah I bet Blizzard had a meeting prior to launching Shadowlands and was like, “Hey you know that, Varynt guy? Yeah we hate him, let’s not give him loot, muahahahaha!!!”.

So if three people didn’t get loot, that means the other two, did get loot? So dungeons are dropping loot, just you didn’t get any, so you took it personally and said that they are “Purposely” not giving you any.

I get loot every run, might be a conduit, and upgrade, or something I have already. Maybe go do some other content for a while, and return to do another run.

[Horrid-illidan]

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

@Vedimh-zuljin

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

there are variables that you’re not accounting for.

In other words, you’re going to make excuses.

Variables existing in a situation is not an excuse, it’s a reality. I’m sorry you don’t realize that, but it’s the truth whether you like it or not, trying to tear someone down by falsely stating it’s an excuse and not a reality won’t make what you’re saying true.

The problem isn’t that he’s thick, it’s that he can’t state what his argument really is without outing himself as a jerk so he keeps repeating nonsense. Lol He wants the 5+ hours he plays this game a day to be more meaningful Via the community overall being less geared so when he AFK’s on a stairway and people pass by him that he looks cool.

There is literally no good argument for incurring less reward for time spent, other than that. I had two max-geared, BIS tuned toons and a near 3k IO in season 4 of BFA–even I had to wait a few minutes to get an inv to a group. Him acting as if the instant you want content you can jump right into it is just silly unless you’re a tank/healer–which he isn’t.

[Dosao-bonechewer (Dosao)]

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

How did this manage to make it through to live?

It was done on purpose because dungeons were giving a lot more loot than raiding.

[Varynt-wyrmrest-accord]

@Enigmaus-thrall

Yeah I bet Blizzard had a meeting prior to launching Shadowlands and was like, “Hey you know that, Varynt guy? Yeah we hate him, let’s not give him loot, muahahahaha!!!”.

So if three people didn’t get loot, that means the other two, did get loot? So dungeons are dropping loot, just you didn’t get any, so you took it personally and said that they are “Purposely” not giving you any.

I get loot every run, might be a conduit, and upgrade, or something I have already. Maybe go do some other content for a while, and return to do another run.

No, it’s that quite literally the dev team said they were purposefully making loot scarcer for everyone.

[Amayna-garona (Amayna)]

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

The fact that you can go through a whole four or five boss dungeon and get absolutely no loot feels terrible. I just got done with a +0 Sanguine Depths, and three of us got no loot the entire dungeon. How did this manage to make it through to live? Loot is a core part of WoW, purposely depriving people of it seems like a very poor decision.

Blizzard has to keep you on that time played metric somehow, lol

[Horrid-illidan]

What I don’t understand is why they don’t do it by making the game alt-friendly. I don’t know a single person who plays the game that doesn’t at least have 2 max-level toons.

[Brewa-hyjal]

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

The fact that you can go through a whole four or five boss dungeon and get absolutely no loot feels terrible.

Well, definitely stay away from raiding, then. I spent a whole night in Normal/Heroic on Tuesday and got nothing. And it’s loot-locked so I can’t even do them again this week.

So far, after tonight, I’m at 10 boss kills total (combining the two difficulties) and only have 1 piece of gear, which I’ll never use because it’s terrible. None of which can be done again until next week.

[Carhagen-moon-guard (Carhagen)]

@Varynt-wyrmrest-accord

The fact that you can go through a whole four or five boss dungeon and get absolutely no loot feels terrible.

Which is how it was in BFA… and in Legion… and in WoD, and MoP, and Cata, and… well I think you get the idea.

Sometimes you get loot, sometimes you don’t. That is the nature of RNG. Just because it doesn’t like you or your friends, doesn’t mean it’s broken.

[Enigmaus-thrall]

Yeah because how dumb would it be to be fully geared within a few dungeon runs?

I’m liking the new system, I understand that I may not get loot, but hey, when I do, that is a great feeling knowing that I got an upgrade.

But I guess others are more, “It’S MY TiMe, GiMmE MY L00TZZ”. and can’t exercise that dreaded word, “Patience.”

[Bombay-gurubashi]

The problem is having conduit drops from bosses in the loot table. That takes away a chance for loot, decreasing your odds. Bfa was the same with azerite gear taking up spots. Legion you could get a legendary and piece of gear from a single boss! See clearly which expansion was more liked.

[Brewa-hyjal]

@Bombay-gurubashi

The problem is having conduit drops from bosses in the loot table. That takes away a chance for loot, decreasing your odds.

Conduit drops are in addition to loot, not in place of it.

[Byniri-zangarmarsh (Byniri)]

Time and time again I’ll say it, BRING BACK VALOR POINTS.

Cause then even if you didn’t get any loot it still felt like you made at least some progress towards a guaranteed item.

[Varynt-wyrmrest-accord]

@Byniri-zangarmarsh

Time and time again I’ll say it, BRING BACK VALOR POINTS.

Cause then even if you didn’t get any loot it still felt like you made at least some progress towards a guaranteed item.

There’s not even a downside to valor points. I legitimately cannot think of why it’d be a negative.

[Mcthuggin-tichondrius]

I did about 12 mythics today (mostly +, and 2 chested many of them), and received virtually nothing. Got a slight amount of anima. That’s about it. Really don’t know how this is possible. And this is for gear that is only a few item levels of an upgrade in most of my slots. Can’t even get that. It does just feel terrible.
I was excited to do mythic + but now I don’t really know if I want to bother. Like I can’t get the gear to do the higher +s from doing +s? I feel like I wasted my time.
Sigh.

[Horrid-illidan]

@Byniri-zangarmarsh

Time and time again I’ll say it, BRING BACK VALOR POINTS.

Cause then even if you didn’t get any loot it still felt like you made at least some progress towards a guaranteed item.

This is why I decided to bench my main and just do RBG/arena on my alt for a while. At least getting honor/conquest per match guarantees gear in the future, and I find the content more fun.

I hope they fix M+ eventually, but if not I’ll just be a semi-casual pleb and have fun doing PVP.

[Varynt-wyrmrest-accord]

@Horrid-illidan

@Byniri-zangarmarsh

Time and time again I’ll say it, BRING BACK VALOR POINTS.

Cause then even if you didn’t get any loot it still felt like you made at least some progress towards a guaranteed item.

This is why I decided to bench my main and just do RBG/arena on my alt for a while. At least getting honor/conquest per match guarantees gear in the future, and I find the content more fun.

I hope they fix M+ eventually, but if not I’ll just be a semi-casual pleb and have fun doing PVP.

The scarcer gear change is 100% something they’re going to look back on and say “In retrospect, that was probably a mistake.” I’m convinced of it already.

[Horrid-illidan]

I’m inclined to agree. I’m not going to run unrewarding content, I’ll just go play something else eventually. At the moment I’m excited to gear out through BGs on my alt, then hop into ranked–but when that changes Blizzard will lose a sub. I suspect I won’t be the only one.