Unless you’re a tank, you have to consider downtime, which can be significant. Not every guild is going to immediately pull you in for chain M+, you’re not always going to find a tank and/or healer very fast, you’re not going to always get immediately accepted into dungeons. If you’re a DPS, you have to consider downtime.
I also wish they’d compensate for the time with some gold or something. I’m actually all for less loot and I’m used to the m+ loot system - but the 35 anima is pretty bad. Hope that goes up with +15’s
The problem with making gold a reward for anything passive is that, the more gold you get for passively just doing things, the more expensive things become since everyone has access to that passive gold. You get more gold, but you don’t effectively get anymore wealthy than you were.
What are you? 5? Lol Anyone who does content has the same % of loot, genius. So someone who grinds for ‘dozens of hours’ is still going to gear/progress faster. You’re just arguing that you want it to take 4x longer, which only makes sense if you just have nothing else to do and are desperate to spend more time in-game.
He’s making sense to me. I’m not sure how you’re not understanding him - He acknowledged that people doing more dungeons will get more loot, but he’s saying that everyone has the same chance at loot from every boss, and the only thing this change does is make the gearing process take longer for everyone.
I already told you what to do. Find a guild or community that is mythic+ focused, get in a group with good players and it will take less time to complete. The only obstacle to this is if you are a bad player and people don’t want you in their group. If that’s the case, get better.
I’m assuming you’re bad because good players don’t take to the forums and whine about things like this.
As I said earlier, guilds won’t always immediately pull you into their M+ chains. Getting “in a group with good players” is not something that people have significant control over. People will not want you in your group for more reasons than someone being bad.
No kidding? So what exactly is it you’re arguing here? That you want players who don’t live on WoW to only see gear every 2 or 3 logins? Lol Why is that even a position you’re taking, does stunted progression of others make you feel superior or something?
Notice how I also said communities, both within wow and through discord. There are literally too many to count. If you can’t get in one, I really don’t know what to tell you. There are also countless guilds forming right now FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE of pushing M+ and Nathria early in the expansion. The only excuse for not finding groups right now is lack of trying.
Obviously this may change deeper into the expansion when the appeal starts to fade. I wouldn’t be saying these things a couple months ago in the dying days of BFA. But for the situation right now, my statements hold true. And if you want to push M+ far and easily, NOW is the time to start looking for groups that you can become a staple member of for the future.
Guilds, communities, they’re effectively the same thing, just one isn’t able to do mythic raids initially and doesn’t have a guild bank. You will not always immediately be pulled into chaining M+ with a community or guild, there are variables that you’re not accounting for. Your entire argument relies on there being absolutely no variables in the situation, which is unreasonable to assume there won’t be. There will always be variables in a case like this.
Variables existing in a situation is not an excuse, it’s a reality. I’m sorry you don’t realize that, but it’s the truth whether you like it or not, trying to tear someone down by falsely stating it’s an excuse and not a reality won’t make what you’re saying true.
A BiS list will be a BiS list regardless of how often loot drops. Warforging/titanforging doesn’t need scarce loot to not exist anymore. BiS lists being largely unmakeable was almost entirely because you couldn’t count on what item level or effects the gear you were getting was going to have.