Running a dungeon on an alt as tank I couldn’t get anyone to follow me. Everyone had different ways they did the dungeon and it was annoying. Tried to be light hearted about it but no one would take the time to even type an lol. I’m very much looking forward to classic. No dungeon finder. Groups took a bit to form which gave a few minutes to be social. Healers had to drink to get mana back about every other fight in a dungeon. Yep, more brief social time. The business of not bothering to be social makes people no better than NPCs, and often bad ones at that.
Really looking forward to Classic WoW where people can make friends.
There’s an incredible amount of convenience with not having to spam trade chat, especially in a low population server. But unfortunately WoW has conditioned the playerbase to not really socialize much anymore, just go get their loot and leave.
I don’t think classic is going to have the affect you think. I personally don’t think most will last past leveling and for those that do will hate how little content they have available unless that’s all they like is leveling.
People complain about not having any gear progression as it currently sits especially for those that don’t raid. Obviously they skipped past lfr/norm/heroic with world quests/warfronts and other content available to those that only play an hr a day.
As far as there being a community, sure there may be a few but the only ones I see are the players intending on clearing naxx. The rest of the player base is anti social now and will be in classic, just because it takes longer to do thing doesn’t mean most will stick together, so as far as I’m concerned it’s going to be more forced cooperation than being social or having a community.
I’ve been seeing alot of the opposite lately. I made some alts and did a few dungeons and for the most part everyone i ran into had been pretty nice to play with. Sure theres the select few who act like their trying to get a world first on a raid but for the most part its pretty fun. It just depends on luck i guess.
I think there might be at least some truth to what you’ve said
I know I personally don’t type as much in the likes of dungeons because I’m a terribly slow typer and suck at typing while on the move. So the go-go-go mentality of most of the modern content does discourage me from engaging with others in that regard
You need to remember that not every one is a social butterfly. I generally won’t start typing in chat, but if some one engages a conversation or asks questions I’ll respond. Besides at the lower levels where this is more common people are in a rush to get to 120, so it’s a bit more understandable.
Personally I enjoy playing the game solo and not bothering to get to know people. Though every time I log on I end up having a blast some where randomly in the world with people from both factions. And I’ll admit that’s one of the reasons I farm world bosses that drop mounts, but after that I go on my merry way.
Got plenty of friends. Don’t need a stupid videogame to make friends. People I chat with in this game are acquaintances, and nothing more. I don’t know these people in real life. You can be friendly of course, but that doesn’t mean I want to carry on a conversation with these people for hours. Just want to run the dungeon say thanks, have a great day, and move on about my business. These kind of threads are hilarious in that people think classic was some sort of videogame utopia lol.
I usually “/greet” everyone, run the dungeon, then “bye”. And if this goes with minimal hiccups i consider it a great run. As long as we are cordial to each other, does it matter if we keep mostly silent?
I do think classic will have some of the effect you’re looking for, but it definitely won’t be 2005 or 2004 again. People are selfish, rude, and don’t care.
They’ve grown up starting at tiny inches of screens in our palms to replace socializing with the people around us. Sending cold, dead messages across an electric signal to represent our feelings and thoughts. It’s as natural as breathing to us all now, but when classic came out. Whispering people was a first experience for a lot of kids. It was 2004, before youtube. before smartphones really took off. Flip phones were around but it wasn’t like every single kid had them, and texting didn’t replace conversation back then.
It was a much more innocent, outgoing youth that crept onto the servers in 2004 to be led about by the hardened, experienced Everquest and SWG veterans, ready to lead this new age of the internet into Azeroth.
Why is your first reaction to something bad happened to you always the fault of something/sometone but yourself??
You could always go for the old method of grouping. You don’t need to wait until Classic to do that.
These days, there are full of bored people online. You can literally just shout “I need help, doing casual XXX, everyone is welcome” in the main cities and I’m sure people would come, to chat even, cuz they’re bored.
See, you’re never gonna find what you want anywhere if you don’t know where to look.
Well firstly that’s why premades there, I don’t really think people care if something is being attacked or someone wanting to attack the opposite faction city etc. anymore or very little anyway.
As far as the more serious crowd is concerned I can’t stand carrying people especially those that waste everyone’s time. I’m pretty laid back but I’m considerate and If I plan on doing something I don’t want someone in my group that’s incompetent or consistently afking or number of things that makes it inconvenient for everyone involved.
But I can understand maybe on the casual end of the game, casually doing world quests, nothing time based although I my self and I’m sure most people don’t like waiting because someone is consistently slow getting to the next quest.
I don’t do as much m+ as I did in legion mostly because I think the dungeons are garbage. But I like most people don’t enjoy wasting time wiping due to someone incompetent either. I don’t find the current systems like raiderio, gear ilvl being very accurate when judging whether someone knows how to play. I’ve played with people that have 2500 or higher IO scores that you’d be shocked were morons.
But there are times I don’t really care, sometimes it’s just enjoyable to chill and hang out.
I hate to break it to you… Classic dungeoning beyond the initial release will be similar to Current WoW. It will be like it was in Vanilla by the 2nd year or as it is in the Private servers. Players don’t talk to eachother, everyone knows what to do or has an idea what to do, no need to communicate, and addons a plenty, including group finder addons. The only time you actually would talk is while you’re forming when you say things “WAKE UP HUNTER, GET TO THE DUNGEON” in the chat when someone is afk, rather than flying over to the dungeon or whatever… beyond that, crickets. maybe an occasional healer saying oom if they are bad at managing their mana and not bothering to drink between every pull, or the tank is running ahead too fast, other than that… no one talks.
If you need proof of this, just go try out a private client, and level up and go join a Deadmines, or whatever other dungeon run… you’ll find that most people don’t talk at all.
You can even see some of this in the streamer’s dungeons runs (not when they are pushing dungeons well above their levels but appropriate level or casual runs) such as Esfand, no talking at all between him and the other people in the dungeon, as Esfand comes from the private servers.
Are you kidding you wouldn’t even have to do that, just kick them and invite someone that’s waiting outside the dungeon or that’s closer in general. Why would you want to socialize to tell someone to get to the dungeon they queued for, sheesh what is this an mmo?
I’m not trolling either, I would do exactly that. You queue for a dungeon in vanilla you were expected to get there in a timely manner, there are plenty of other people out there that probably want to do the same content that are going to be more attentive.
I remember some, but to assume noone else is going to be near that zone when someone’s afking in org while the rest of the group is already there or at least half way. I don’t really care, if you want to wait for them to get off the pot, cook dinner and what not that’s fine go ahead and wait at the dungeon.
I think dungeon groups will be booming in the first months of Classic. Servers will be packed and every zone will be a party with lots of level-appropriate folks running around running to fill your group for whatever you want.
Later on though I think that level 30 warlock who wants to run RFK is going to have a tough time unless he already has a level 60 buddy to run them through. That’s how it’s going to go. It’s how it was even in later end of original Vanilla.