Dungeon finder difficulties

maybe I’m blind but I cannot find a blue post that clarifies the difficulties that the dungeon finder will offer, is it just normal?

RDF was always for normal and heroic. I can’t imagine the not having at least that.

Retail doesn’t have RDF for Mythics, yet… but I’m not sure if that will carry over to H+.

I haven’t been on the PTR to check myself, but a friend who was said it was normal, heroic and all H+ difficulties.

It also has normals for all level ranges, not just wrath content.

Not 100% sure if that’s correct but that’s what I was told.

Yes they said all of the dungeons will be usualble for rdf. All 3 of the heroic ++ will be able to be qued for with rdf. There is a gearscore check for each one. And pvp gear will count toward the gearscore check.

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  • Normal
  • Heroic
  • Alpha
  • Beta
  • Gamma

All queueable.

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All the difficulties are in RDF.

H+ only scales to a very finite amount so they can put it in RDF with an appropriate ilvl cap and be done with it. They’ve said gamma will be roughly on par with the ICC dungeons in terms of difficulty.

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The ICC 5’s can suck if your group is dumb. I wonder if the original dungeons will actually be as fussy.

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Thats how it was. The ice tunnel in PoS was not passable with some groups, because they could not pay attention. The end event in HoR was not passable due to low dps or overstaying in many runs. Todays players will potentially adapt much faster though.

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You haven’t played retail in the last 10 years, have you?

To be fair, I did not play much, only 1-2 patches of each MoP, Legion and Shadowlands, but back in original wotlk, players with more than 5 keybinds were a rarity and most had small monitors with bad fps. I cannot imagine the average player performing worse today compared to back then. I might change my mind next week though, as you are implying.

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Over the last number of years the wrath timewalking dungeons have been nerfed to the point of nothing due to players not being able to complete them, even LFR has had to be nerfed many times due to players not being able to down it. Todays players, on average, can hardly deal with basic mechanics without giving up and rage quitting.

this is great news. pls blizz don’t ruin rdf for us lol

what are these in terms of difficulty?

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To be fair, the ICC timewalking dungeons were way overtuned. The originals were not hard, at all. A bad tank could make HoR hard back in Wrath. But overall they were easy and an Unholy DK could solo them if they knew what they were doing and how to manage pulls.

They are all pretty useless in terms of gearing up and you would only be doing Gamma to get 5 emblems of frost for your daily instead of 2 running heroics. Thats why people do H+. Gearing up through heroics will be the least headache thing and since the playerbase bases everything on GS, you can get a higher GS from regular heroics anyways.

These “difficulties” were put in for retail tourists. M+ is a primary thing so they made M+ lite and stuck it in wrath when it wasnt needed at all.

heroic is the basic can be done by people under item level of 200.
i dunno about alpha’s never done them but they’re getting nerfed in 5days.
for Beta you can read detailed info in here

in gamma, mobs/boss’s gain no new ability other than what’s in beta but their damage increases by 70% & they gain them 4x HP Meanwhile you gain new ability by picking it at start by the elf guy
-melee dps have chance to apply a debuff on enemy making them takes 20%More dmg for 10sec
-casters&range attacks proc buff that gives 10%haste to all party for 10sec
-healer gain 100% spell damage
-tank get insanely Op thorn damage buff

beta can be done with people under 4k GS but some how people in live request near 5k
gamma can be done with people under 5k GS but i can guess that toxic people will kick you if you’re not highly over geared the moment you enter gamma through rdf queue

All dungeons are queueable and what’s even better if you choose random it bypasses the daily lockout so if you’re lucky you can get the same heroic multiple times through the random feature.

There is a min ilv but it’s a lot lower than what just random players would demand.

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