So how about we get the real vanilla experience we wanted and scale the dungeon difficulty to what it was then. Pulling whole rooms and aoeing would have been a near insta wipe back then. Seems the new meta is alive and well in the “vanilla” experience. …and NO, people now are not just “better”.
Blizzard has better reference points than your memory.
Cause their decision making has been soo spot on, yeah…like yours.
“I can make up whatever I want and post it on the forums. People will believe it!”
Blizzard can’t make you an incompetent teenager again. Sorry, that’s outside the patching cycle.
People are just better than they were back then. Everyone knows how to get through RFC and SFK. We know the boss mechanics, and what to prep for. Unless they MIB the player base and make us forget 15 years, you’re not going to get that original experience back.
yep I did a RFC last night on my shaman as dps. But since I need to wait for that talent to use two handers, I was able to spot tank the few mobs needed with my stoneclaw, and then rez the tank (druid healer). Back in the day that really would have been an instant wipe lol
My guild cleared all of Scarlet Monastery, including Cathedral, with a group of 34-38 chars. Only wiped once on the Mograine/Whitemane fight.
Actually, it’s because people are worse now, so they wait until they outlevel the dungeon to do it, instead of going in when it’s still challenging.
Thats bull thought up by people in the new meta. Mobs then hit harder and you needed to cc and some semblance of strategy. I played both then and now and now is a snooze fest.
You’ve blocked out how much of a badie you were back then. It happens.
I remember playing Vanilla as well and it was easy just like now.
Op just sucked back then and is unable to cope
Yeah, you really know nothing…why troll? I was a teen in the 90’s so there is that, lol. Blizzard wouldnt have come out with classic if the modern game was doing well…it isnt! People like you ruing games by making them a mind numbing experience of farming achievements and brooding over your ilvl…ooooh! Face it, the people in charge of the game direction today are not the braintrust that developed and made the initial game great! THAT is the problem! In the end, its their loss, again, because we will all just leave again.
You read a whole lot into that post that wasn’t there.
I never stopped playing BFA though. I still enjoy it just like Classic. People play both as shocking as that may be.
Having seen and experienced the “Meta” while leveling, it works in lower dungeons, if you have 2-3 mages, if you do not have that, you are going to have a very bad time until you get lots of gear. If you try this with any other classes, you better have some extremely good communication, skilled players and good cooldowns to pull it off, and you probably only get one maybe 2 per dungeon run because you are burning basically everything to pull it off.
Mages are just the S tier CCers able to control large groups as frost and burst things down rather quickly, however, if they do not get the burst combos right, they go completely oom and are wanding, and potentially causing a wipe because if you have 4-5 mobs and everyone is oom, its probably over.
The fact is, that people are better now, and are able to use these things to their advantage. It is just how it is. But outside of specific group comps, it doesnt work, at all. You cant take a hunter, a warlock and a rogue as DPS and expect to do anything like that.
Way back no one from my experienced even thought about overleveling for an instance. We went in as soon as we got quests. People were still learning their classes and how the game works and how to work as a group. If you say you played that first year or two and has this mastered already I know you’re lying.
The other reason that people used to use CC all the time in instances is because that’s how we played the game. We had all these cool abilities for our characters. There wasn’t 15 years of online guides and group-think saying “that ability is useless, you need to use this ability to maximize XP per hour blah blah”. The aoe roflstomp really didn’t become widely used until late TBC.
Yet, when this was brought up, the devs compared elite damage on classic to their 1.12 client and found that the elite damage range in classic is correct.
But here you are, wanting people to believe your 15 year old feelycraft memories over a direct numbers comparison to the actual vanilla client.
You’d think someone who was a teenager in the 90’s would have learned how to stop spelling like one by now.