I was under the impression that after a boss is killed, you would not get the dungeon deserter debuff. I was in a classic timewalking and killed 4 bosses and was kicked on the way to the last boss (Which is sus all on its own). This should not happen at all and is unacceptable to penalize someone for half an hour through no fault of their own. Especially if it’s malicious in nature.
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The deserter buff from vote-kick was in result of people abusing the queuing system, and the deserter buff going through the dungeon was recently changed after people leaving bosses before dungeon was finished early into the expansion. How ever, if you wish to provide proper feedback or have a suggestion in relation to this, you’ll need to submit it via in-game or via the sub-forums linked blow.
Sorry, but Support Forum Agents have no control over the development of the game, and can’t change anything within the game along that aspect.
Apart from you do not know the reason why the group would kick you.
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I believe that this is an intentional change, however, you’re welcome to post it as a bug in the Bug Report forum if you feel that this is not working as intended.
A note on this part of your post; The vote to kick feature is designed for the majority of the group to decide if they wish to remove a member. Under Blizzard’s definition, it is a majority rules system. This means that the group can remove a player for ANY reason they see fit. It also means that using it is not ‘malicious’ and cannot be ‘abused’.
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That was changed in August.
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It used to work like that for a very long time. However, issues arose where many players were consistently dropping groups after the first boss in a certain dungeon because they were only trying for a specific loot drop. So they changed the system to impose the penalty for dropping at any time until the final boss was defeated. Unfortunately, players like yourself are the collateral damage from Blizzard trying to curb certain behaviors. It really sucks and I’m sorry that happened to you. Those other players are real jerks for kicking you for no good reason. I have been told, however, that Blizzard does track these things and if they spot a pattern of these sort of “malicious” kicks, they can take action against the perpetrators. I know that’s of little comfort to someone suffering a 30 minute punishment, but at least Blizzard knows it’s a problem.
I’d take up the recommendation from others in the thread and submit a suggestion via the in game suggestion feature. Try to be constructive. For example, just saying something like, “I got kicked for no reason near the end the the dungeon and got a debuff. That’s BS. Please fix this!” doesn’t really give the developers much to go on. In contract, something like, “Please start the 30 minute debuff timer after killing the first boss, so kicks become less punishing later in the dungeon,” would at least give the devs something to consider.
Good luck, and sorry again for the frustrating experience.
#dfmb
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I am sorry but kicking someone at the end of a dungeon is absolutely malicious if they aren’t afk. I got kicked right before the last boss Azjol-Nerub for the terrible sin of dying due to a tank error and not only did I not get credit for the dungeon but I also got a 30 min debuff for what is literally a 5 min at most dungeon. I’ve been playing this game since launch and this is the worst iteration of this feature ever. If there is concern about trolls then just add a flag or something and if you are kicked twice within a certain time period then you get a debuff.
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If you have feedback, you’d want to do that outside of the CS forum. That info won’t be seen by anyone that can do anything with.
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It’s always going to inconvenience someone, Bone. The chosen interation is always going to be the lesser of many evils.
It’s not the system’s fault; it’s the people who prompted its creation fault.
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That is just your opinion. Just because you disagree with being kicked, does not always makes it malicious. And frankly, when being kicked from the dungeon, you’ll won’t see the reason you have been kicked for.
If you have better solution for the system, you might want to post it where the development can see it. Because they are the ones responsible for the gameplay design, and you’ll find they don’t exist here in Customer Support.
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I disagree. The chosen iteration was a knee jerk reaction to a temporary problem and I’ve seen a lot more consternation due to it than I saw in the past (obviously not all on this forum).
It is not a temporary problem as it re-occured fairly recently with tank players leaving right away after (not) receiving the tank trinket from a certain dungeon’s first boss, as it had to be adjusted to include mid-dungeon leaving as well.
What you replied with wasn’t a disagreement with what I said. You simply rehashed that you don’t like it.
I was saying that it will very likely never satisfy everyone regarless of the iteration, but it needs to be in place.
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No, Blizzard is not “tracking” vote kicks, nor will anyone be penalized for it. They have started outright that it is a simple majority system and by definition cannot be abused.
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that’s how it used to be, but players cried that they have to wait for replacements in Ara-Kara so now you can’t leave anymore at all.
Yes, but now the many are being punished for the actions of the few. All this will do is decrease the number of people willing to queue for LFG dungeons.
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