All these people whining about retail’s instant 110’s and xp boosts sure do love paying for dungeon boost runs in Classic. Aren’t they the same thing?
It amazes me all the excuses and mental hoops these people make to justify what amounts to an exploit that is hurting the game for anyone who actually wants to play the game(especially new players).
Blizzard please do something about it. I don’t remember it being a thing in Vanilla, and it wasn’t even a thing in Classic till a couple months ago when probably some streamer made a video, now half the LFG spam is for these groups.
Um, considering everyone who can AFFORD to pay for level boosts has a main already - i dont see the problem. I still find groups on my low level when i look. Even better is when i CREATE a group. Seems you’re just pissy for whatever reason
It may have been possible but I don’t remember anyone doing them in Vanilla. Friends might help you if you couldn’t find a group, or to help you get gear(especially twinks), but I don’t remember XP boosting being a thing, and it seems to have gotten nerfed in TBC.
For that matter, it wasn’t even a thing in Classic till pretty recently.
I suspect that the massive amounts of gold in game due to the exploit-early-and-often garbage early in classic’s life led to this being so widespread. There is WAY too much gold in the economy.
I have four 60’s and I’m leveling a priest right now, and I have 7k gold. I’m annoyed because of all your spam, and while I can still find groups, obviously people leveling in dungeons is having an effect on the number of people leveling in the world and doing dungeons normally.
I think it has a generally negative effect on Classic, and it is certainly against the spirit of Classic. If your friend told you about Classic and that everyone was just paying gold for mages to level them, you would think this was a stupid game.
I never claimed it wasn’t possible in Vanilla. Obviously it was possible. I’m just saying I don’t remember anyone doing it, but that is basically all Classic is anymore. And it is hurting the game.
Yes, however if i told that same friend its impossible to afford boosts without a main that required you to have already done all the grind and that this keeps you from not leveling another alt … it wouldnt. The part you conveniently left out is that NO NEW PLAYER CAN AFFORD TO BUY LEVELING BOOSTS. Most mages charge 10g+ per run. The most popular run is Mara which you can enter at 40. Most players saved nearly every cent to afford their mounts which means at 40 they are broke as hell.
Show me the evidence that the whiners are the same people paying for boosts. There’s a misconception that common gripes on the forums are representative of the player population as a whole. That’s completely bogus for two reasons I can think of off-hand:
Players who are happy with the game are too busy playing to even visit the forums.
Most players don’t even visit the forums until there’s something that they want to gripe about. That’s why there’s such a large volume of gripes on these forums.
For instance, my guild has over 900 players. Only three or four of them post on these forums, and most of those posts are for recruitment purposes on the Pagle forum. I’ve only ever seen one other guildie in the Classic discussion section. It’s not that they lack opinions. They just discuss them in guild chat rather than on the forums.
The whiners conveniently ignore one fact: every one of the aspects of the game that they’re whining about was in response to player demand, with the exception of LFR. LFR was their way of convincing the accountants that they wouldn’t lose the vast majority of their playerbase (which was non-raiding) if they were to pay less attention to developing dungeons and more attention to developing raids.
Paying for runs may be semi new, back in day we just traded plvling, servers were smaller, it was actually just as hard if not harder to find a legit group in vanilla from VC to MARA by the time AQ40 came around. It was mostly people being plvled by guildies.
Technically you could just buy gold to buy the runs. But as you alluded to, this impact new players more negatively because it makes it much harder for them to find groups since they can’t just buy them like everyone else.
But you’re wrong on not being able to find groups.
Do me a favor. Try this. Post in LFG or General Chat “LFM ‘X’ Need ‘X’” tell me how its impossible to get a group after.
Next, at this stage of vanilla it was the same in terms of less people leveling. Sorry but its truth. SM and ZF were run on the regular. Other than that you rarely could get a group that was nearly ready to start.
It seems the issue is that you are lazy and dont want to put in work. You want to wait to see a group thats nearly full already so you can just go and benefit. Be the change you want in the world (of warcraft). Start setting up groups.
I didn’t say it was impossible to find groups, I said it was harder to find groups. Which is just the truth. No idea why you guys are obsessed with defending this stupid practice.
I boost on my server, i specifically boost SM (cath/armory). I can kind of see why its bad as there really isnt many groups doing actual dungeon runs. Im on a pretty high pop server too (Whitemane).
I do free runs for people, including other dungeons, i ran a group thru deadmines earlier who said they were waiting 45 minutes to fill. I just think people naturally stop leveling in slower ways when they have a 60 who can fund boosts. You basically level every 45 minutes,
First a disclosure - i have never paid for a boost in classic.
Next - Because you are trying to tell people how to live their lives in game. You are no one to tell others how to get enjoyment. No one owes you a thing. Hard stop.
In closing, it will increasingly become harder and harder to find groups. Most people have leveled their alts and have given up on the grind. Are you going to start demanding everyone make an alt next if they ban buying runs? so that way you can enjoy the game the way you feel you should?
The level of entitlement in this is amazing to me.
Because its not new, it doesn’t hurt as much as you claim, its not harder to form groups than it was in vanilla, and to change it would mean huge changes that will end up hurting the game far more than any boosters. The lower level dungeons outside of boosting ARE NOT good XP they are simply places to do quests and get some gear to help you level outside the dungeon. Those groups still form, a lot, unless your server is dead, in which case without boosts it would still be dead.