Dumb Thought : Avaloren, renegade Titan Watchers, the Curse of Flesh and Titan Constructs going rogue

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So something struck me as I’m farting around in WoW.

Supposedly, Avaloren or however it is spelled is a landmass where the Titans couldn’t establish Order, and where a number of Titan Watchers and Titan Constructs/Servants went rogue and ditched Odyn, to the point multiple crusades/invasions ordered by the Prime Designate showed up and got rekt and even a blowhard like Odyn had to give it up as a bad hand and move on.

Now, we’re given insight that the Earthen sent along with the expedition became a Dwarf-like society like the ones that we currently have in the Eastern Kingdoms and Northrend. But … Earthen are not the warrior-caste of the Titan forces, they’re the labourers and builders. Iron Dwarves are a new creation spear-headed by Yogg’Saron and his servants. Earthen and Mecha-Gnomes are the labourers, builders and tinkerers of the Titan Keepers’ armies, with specific unique models, such as the Mogu, the Cat-taurs and the Serpent-folk being uniquely designed for specific environmental challenges that the basic models cannot handle efficiently.

The ground forces are Vrykul and Giants. Vrykul who are the ancestors of the race of Humanity.

And the first fleet that got sent over there had the task of exploring this landmass went rogue and committed unnamed crimes against a Titan Keeper known as Innaria, and the three fleets tasked with punishing these ‘Heretics’ were dashed on ‘rock and wave’ and completely destroyed. The books we get from Uldaman paint a picture that the Heretics are ‘hot blooded’ and are painted as likely to destroy each other in time, giving rise to the thought that Avaloren might be a raging battleground when we arrive, not after, which would be a nice change for once.

Furthermore, people got it twisted. Khaz Algar is where this offshoot of Dwarves evolved that are almost identical, at least socially, to the Dwarves of the Eastern Kingdoms, and that they were monitored for so long means they can’t be in Avaloren, because the Titan Watchers can’t monitor this continent at range, hence why they needed to send and expeditionary fleet to investigate it. Khaz Algar might not be in Avaloren, or rather, might not be on the mainland of Avaloren, but rather off the coast, an island or larger landmass that might be our first port of call, being outside of whatever influence or magical barrier that prevents the Titan Keepers from directly teleporting to or scrying on this other landmass.

So we have rogue Titan Constructs/Servants rampaging about on Avaloren and who may or may not have either killed or kidnapped the Titan Watcher sent to oversee the operation, and we have Dwarves in this unknown location known as Khaz Algar, and are noted to be unusually resistant to the Curse of Flesh. Meaning that these Khal Algarian Dwarves might be Earthen, or partially Earthen, in terms of biology and build.

We’ve also seen that it is possible to reverse the Curse of Flesh. Gnomes were re-mecha-fied in Northrend, and if the Heretic Titan Servants in Avaloren are rebelling against Odyn, rather than the Titans, against being disposable slaves rather than servants and honored members of the Titans forces, they might also reject the Curse of Flesh, or be affected by it to varying degrees.

What if that’s the twist. It isn’t so much a ‘oh noes angry Dwarves!’ and more we’re about to walk into a Titan Keeper Civil War that has been brewing for thousands and thousands of years. The threat of being re-Titanfied of the races who have Titanic origins, the Humans, Dwarves and Gnomes, and the loss of their independence and individuality due to the nature of the process, and the extinction of the non-Titan ancestry, aka anyone not a Human, Dwarf or Gnomes.

Odyn on the rampage, the Titans of Azeroth and the Heretics of Avaloren squaring off, Tyr returned from the dead and freed from Titanic programming, the Dragon Aspects now Aspects of Azeroth herself, through Amirdrassil, rather than Aspects of the Titans who empowered them. That’d be a hell of a :poop::cloud_with_rain: to try and navigate, and which side do we stand with? The Heretics who might very well have legitimate grudges against the Titan Keepers who have proven to not be 100% squeaky clean, the utterly untrustworthy taint-stain that is Odyn, or the Titan Keepers who are trying to be better and to not allow Odyn’s former leadership to taint their future endeavors but are hamstrung by their duties as jailers of the Old Gods.

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I guess the dumbest thought aligned with this is to think one side has to die, but it doesn’t matter which one wins, just that one must loose.

In my dumb thought, this means we get there as neutral, learn a little, and then forced to choose a side. Doesn’t matter which side. The thing is that other people might choose the other side. In this way there will be Horde and Alliance working together, but against other Horde and Allince which is working together on the other side.

Giving us a Warcraft feel again with a sort of red vs blue, but without the need to justify the other side and therefore allowing the one thing Blizzard has never allowed, one side to win.

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I mean …

Have it function like the Silithus event, like the opening of Gates of Ahn’quiraz or however it is spelled. Like the unlocking of the Isle of Thunder in Mists of Pandaria.

Have player interaction with one of the factions push their numbers higher. At the end of the month-long period, that faction gains an advantage and progresses, and the lowest-numbered faction gains a Desperation buff which doubles their gains for the next month.

It might be a diamond-shaped multiple option angle, with the end already decided, but it is HOW we get there that makes the difference, and gives Blizzard an idea of what the bulk of their player-base wants. If all the gear is of equal numbers and no one side or other is innately quicker to complete, then it falls entirely to player bias which side they’re going to support.

At the end, they sign an agreement, peace is declared, we all get drunk and go home, but the faction that got the most support gets that little bit extra bit of love outside of the cinematic, with ambient dialogue and stay-a-while commentary giving us some in-depth discussion of how the world is going to change under their control, while the defeated faction(s) grumble instead or mutter of how badly this is going to interfere in their own plans.

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The thing is that i would really love to see our decisions affect the outcome that wasn’t pre determined. Like Blizzard could make two endings that aren’t too different from one another and the one that’s chosen is the one more players went with.

That would be even greater for the stay a while and listen because some NPCs would be saying things as a what if which was actually part of the other ending. Plus, for RP it would be wild because even though there ain’t in-game consequences, now we have characters that backed the loosing side and roll with it. It’s not too severe like the Kor’krom thing because the factions we sided with over there mean little to us over here.

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It’ll be funny at this point if all the Avaloren stuff is fake and the next xpac is something else entirely.

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I would be laughing hysterically if they did this.

It would definitely be the best bait-and-switch Blizzard has pulled to date.

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I’m not convinced Blizz is this clever, but I learned my lesson with MOP not to pre-judge games, so I will only hope that whatever it is…is amazing.

I was one of those when MOP was announced. I was annoyed we were heading to Happy Fun Time Panda Land. I was convinced that I would probably end up leaving the game over it.

MOP ended up becoming my second favorite expac, only to Wrath.

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They don’t really do bait and switch. They do things like, “The next warchief definitely won’t be Vol’jin.” And then they make it Vol’jin.

I’ve always felt that a lot of their “leaks” aren’t really leaks. They’re marketing. They drop them to create spin in the community so the game is talked about and to judge how the community feels about the upcoming content.

I also have to say I was surprised about MOP. I wasn’t even going to play that one. I bought into the anti-panda hype. But then it was so pretty. And the musical score was so good (and I don’t even really go for game music!).

I’m not invested enough right now to worry about what the next expac is. I’ll probably play it regardless. After all, I’ve played all the other hot messes they’ve dropped in between the good ones. Why stop now?

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