Hi guys, Bicepspump here. You might’ve seen my post the other day about Killing Machine being bugged for Dual-Wield in shadowlands. Essentially, we were getting 33% less Killing Machine procs compared to the behaviour in the Shadowlands Pre-Patch.
Good news, this was a bug and will be fixed in 9.2!! This is a significant DPS boost for DW, 5%+ DPS in single target, which is really nice.
Our predictions still put 2H on top on single target but it’s still so nice to receive this significant of a buff for DW.
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That other post was…… Exhausting to say the least unfortunately.
I really like the direction they are going into making changes and listening to their player base a lot more so now than ever.
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They listened to the players in SL development. Every change made to frost was player suggested.
KM rank 2 - Player Suggested
2h - Player Suggested
MotFW - Player Suggested
Increasing KM proc chance for 2h - Player Suggested
GA applying RI - player suggested
Fixing a bug which was probably caused by going into the coding with the increasing 2h KM proc chance since there was no other reason to even touch that coding, which was an unintended change, is great. They needed to know about the change to be able to fix it though.
I highly doubt anyone is going to be using 2h in the raid or M+ and the tier set probably wont be used in PvP because it will have really low crit chance in the first place rendering the tier set useless since PvP picks up mastery and versatility.
There is a lot of add and target swap fights in Spelch and in M+ is a whole bunch of cleave and even on some bosses target swaps, a lot of bosses actually.
Once people get the tier set, which who knows how long that will be with an 8 week waiting period to craft pieces, people are going to be disappointed with it. In practice, its probably going to be good to still run RI on a weapon for either set just based off of target swaps and poor stack rate outside of PoF windows.
Dont get hyped for the set, its really not that great.
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Another undocumented change, sometimes Arctic Assault isnt falling off after Remorseless Winter Ends which is the buff giving the 8% crit.
Also, GA’s generated by KM are causing KM procs with Obliteration now which doesnt help with any problems people have with the tier set. You can get RI stacks up quicker, more Obliterates during that window which its basically 12 seconds of Obliterate spam.
All of the other issues with the spec is still there. But you are going to overcap on RP with Obliteration windows since you dont need to use Rime or Frost Strike at all outside of the initial use to get the chain going. I can get about 9 Obliterates in that window and a FWF.
2h feels very wishy washy where you can have a really good set, then the next one it just tanks. Really huge swings in dps. Ive had as high as about 8.6k and as low and 6.9k while using 2h. DW is a lot more consistent with about 8.6k dps peaks and around 8k at the low end.
You are much more likely to go into your next PoF window with DW at 5 stacks of RI which means all 9 Obliterates are going to be at full strength instead of the last 4 with Obliteration. Not to mention that you are also very likely to have a KM proc going into the PoF window so you dont have to get the chain going with Howling Blast or Frost Strike unlike you would have to with 2h which increases the amount of Obliterates within that window by 1 so you can get about 10 Obliterates within the 12 second window.
I find that it works much better with DW. If there are adds that absolutely need to die then 2h and its burst will probably be needed.
Obliterate is making up around 38% of my overall damage, Glacial Advance is the next one making up around 11.5% then autos at 10%, Frost Strike at about 8.8%, RW at 8.7% FF, Howling Blast blah blah blah.
Ill do some more stuff on the PTR. I dont see BoS working well with the tier set though and it goes into Obliteration entirely.
yeah, i’m just throwing this out there because after that other thread, it’s the last time i’ll do this: i now see why people quit posting informatively once a certain someone adds their “i am god; no one knows more than me” responses. one of my favorite classes can go to hell now for all i care… if i see that name in a response, i won’t be posting anything to help.
good luck all and godspeed.
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How do you kill that which has no life.
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you litterally said it was not a bug in the other post pls stop trolling
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please Keiste for the love of god just stop posting or being negatif on the dk forum
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I have news that will revolutionize your life. If you ignore trolls, they go away. Telling them to shut up is like trying to drown a fire in gasoline.
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Where did I say it wasnt a bug using those words?
I never said it was a bug, in fact in the second sentence of my first post I said
Or are you misinterpreting me saying he was wrong and not actually reading into the context of what was said. Selective reading and assumption just makes you look bad.
No, I didnt say the KM chance wasnt a bug, I said even if it is nerfed through some change, it doesnt matter that much because DW still gets a whole lot more KM procs than 2h. In fact Biceps didnt even say it was a bug but an undocumented change, which Blizzard further said it was unintended.