Nah, that’s just your biases and ignorance talking.
Again, I am leveling a paladin to tank. The lack of dual spec isn’t stopping me.
Personal choice is what made the tank and healer shortage. Not a lack of dual spec.
Nope it’s not hard to understand that adding an extra barrier in front of tanking/healing discourages people from doing it.
Once again not everyone is you.
And given you only play a couple hours max each week outside of raiding that’s gonna be a slow process.
Man you guys are stil at it.
Ah well. Hopefully the Devs will see sense and add dual specc into the game, especially if they don’t seem to be in a dang hurry to release content.
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You do love to ignore context of things I said. I gave you my holiday season play time.
I’m back to playing 20+ hours a week, but even when I was at 10 hours for the holiday season, I had enough time to farm for respecing and doing pvp.
But it’s OK, playing a 15 year old game is hard for you and you need it made easier, we get it.
Well did the dailies again and just for you I did the fires over skettis as well for your 3 dailies.
Got super hot stew and felblood fillet for the others.
Went and did the skittish first then fished the fellow, used engineer teleporter and got turned into a chicken so I had to sit there for 3 minutes, then flew over to the internals to cook the food, hearted and turned quests in. It was 11 min 35 seconds.
If I wasn’t turned into a chicken that would have been a 8 min 35 seconds.
So yes. I still stand by being able to do 2-3 dailies in about a 10 minute average.
But it’s OK, you will call this a lie as well.
Doesnt T6 bring out some of the best badge gear in the game? Subjugation cloak with haste on it thats literaly bis, battlemaster trinkets etc. From memory people start literally spamming kara for badges this patch
If I understand it correctly, that badge gear won’t come out until Sunwell. So figure that’s about a year away. There’s no reason to spam anything. I’d imagine that you already have enough badges for the stuff you’d want.
Yeah it was sunwell originally, and yes just doing the daily heroic once in awhile you should have plenty of badges right off the bat. But I believe that’s also when gems become available from badges too.
Yes, I think you’re right about the gems, but you’d still be able to buy them off the AH. You’d be able to get them faster at the beginning of course. In the old days, it took a while before those things became readily available.
While TBC is a great game and I think the best that WoW ever was, the heroic dungeons not scaling at any point would be my lone complaint. Dungeons are fun enough, but when there’s no reward, we have the raid logging nature that this expansion is pretty famous for.
I was reading through some threads on the “community council” forum and I came across one of the blue posts, and there was a bit that caught my eye. It was on a completely different subject, chickens and battle squawk in raids, but this bit I think is relevant here:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/tbcc-what-am-i-gonna-do-with-allll-these-chickens/1154469
Now, considering this was a pretty recent comment, does this not prove that changes are being carefully weighted against their potential damage to the authenticity of TBC, even if the changes would be positive?
Given we know that lack of dual spec was intentional and explicitly intended, and is by extension crucial to an “authentic” experience, kinda stuffs the whole “devs are open to changing anything without any justification!” narrative…
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I am 100% positive that WoTLK Classic will be coming out soon. Dual spec comes out then. First or second patch if I remember right. Maybe even the prepatch. But either way it is in WoTLK where you get that option.
What you are mentioning is a WoTLK game mechanic. It will NOT be released in TBC.
If they were faster with content releases I’d be much more okay with dual spec. Slow release cycle is a significant reason why dual spec is risky - less gating (be it through gold farming for spec or attunements or whatever) means we blow through the content faster.
Aside from the initial burst of interest people will play less with dual spec in the long run rather than more. People don’t run dungeons because they’re specced for it, they run dungeons to earn rewards. If there’s nothing left for them in the dungeons they won’t run them - regardless of spec. Gold is a large reason people do stuff. Dual spec means less need for gold over time (it’s a one off fee), less grinding and questing - less to do due to less reasons to do it.
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That’s not how it actually works. Most people are using dual spec to access some other aspect of the game which means dual spec results in them playing more. Not only because they’re actually doing that whatever but it’s another set of gear they need to get.
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And currently those people have to farm a little gold to do that.
Are you telling me that these people, for whom 50g involves more play time than they willing to give for a respec, will suddenly invest more time into the game because they have effortless access to this second spec now that they don’t even value at 50g?
If they want access to another role they can have it now - cheaply. But they don’t want it that much do they? Will they take it and use it even when they don’t need any gear or to farm any gold, just for the fun of dual speccing … I think not.
The only case where I think this is different is with hardcore Arena players who would skip all the PVE stuff in a heart beat if they could but do it as a means to an end. PVP is self generating content, and doesn’t require regular content release or time/gold sinks to keep people engaged.
Anyway Zyrius - welcome again to one of those reasons you keep saying I never give, I gave this as a reason about 3 months ago too … slow content delivery and the need for artificial gating is a reason why adding DS now would potentially be harmful.
And your position is fundamentally flawed because you are assuming that people are actually doing that farming now to respec. When the reality is that they are simply not playing at all, so the net result is lack of dual spec actually ends up with people playing less than they otherwise would./
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No, I’m assuming that the people who aren’t doing the farming now are also the people that won’t be donning a shield and Tanking for their mates with Dual spec… They are people who play a few hours a week, and they’ll continue to play a few hours a week, get their loot and be done. Nothing wrong with that. But Dual spec won’t change that and if anything will help them reach their goals faster.
The only reason I log in more than raid nights now is to get gold for respecs and consumes, that’s it. Take away the respec cost and that’s one less reason I need to log in.
The people who aren’t farming gold for respecs now are people who don’t have a reason to - they see no value in it. They have what they want from the tier. People go to extraordinary lengths to do things in game that they have a reason to do.
You might think, as you do, “if it were free and easy I’d use it”. But for how long? How long until the novelty wore off given that this is a feature not even worth 50g to people? It’s not expensive and people still don’t do it.
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Right you are assuming that everyone plays the same way you do, which is a fundamentally flawed position as people have explained in detail exactly why lack of dual spec results in them playing less.
Those reasons might not apply to you but that’s fine not everyone has to have the same play style.
No-one is saying they do. But if they value changing specs then 50g is pretty cheap, they can do that already.
The game doesn’t have to cater to every conceivable play style. I mean non raiders shouldn’t miss out on raid loot just because it’s not their thing? Not - lol
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