I’m ok with changes like tweaking meta-ruining items or fixing bugs and quirks that hurt the experience.
I’m not ok with changes that are actually entire features that make TBC less like TBC and more like a different expansion.
This is the difference you can’t seem to comprehend for who knows what reason.
None of the changes made have been even close to the level feature-begging you are trying to accomplish by hamfisting a WOTLK feature in to TBC.
So you could simply not use dual spec if it destroys your experience so much.
That’s what’s great about optional features.
Oh yeah? Can I turn off dual spec for other players too?
One of my issues with dual spec is the feature set it brings to all players to be able to use.
Since I cannot determine for all players whether they would use it or not, it is definitively not optional.
Literally any single player using using a privilege such as dual spec, harms my TBC experience, and the authenticity of the recreation, because there weren’t players using such a feature back during real TBC
Haha this 100%, if I want them I got to ping on Discord, and often they do show up.
I’m still fully in support of Dual specc.
I doubt it will happen, but it’d make TBCC better. I can’t really think of any scenario in which having dual specc available would make TBCC worse.
Just seems like a solid bonus to me.
Probably also would help all those realms like mine that are split 80/20 or to some degree like that.
No it wouldn’t make it better. It would make it more like wotlk. If that’d what you want just wait for wotlkc.
No you can stop worrying about what other people are doing when it doesn’t affect you and simply not use it
I don’t see a difference?
Sounds like you just are angry at wrath more than you dislike the idea of dual specc.
Terrible argument against the implementation of a feature that even in the original TBC people wanted.
Also wrath for all we know is years off. I’d rather enjoy the game more now. To be frank, people whining it’s not exactly like TBC have already lost, the ships sailed a long time ago, and there’s no situation in which I can see dual specc (A feature we know people want and was created in wrath due to people’s intrested in it in TBC) would be a detriment to the game.
Especally on low population servers.
It does affect me.
As long as they exist within the same realm as me, it inadvertantly will always affect me.
The only way I couldn’t be affected by dual spec players is for them to not exist on my server, hence I’m against it’s implementation.
So how about this:
Season of the Crusade!
Dual Spec!
LFR Black Temple and Hyjal!
And more!
There, you get what you want, and my game isn’t ruined. You go play with a one-way transfer to the ‘Season of the Crusade’ servers and live your best life.
This is tbcc, not wotlkc.
The change of dual spec goes directly against the design intentions of tbc. And move away from creating tbc experience.
The purpose of tbcc is to give tbc experience, not tbc with a side of wotlk experience.
You’re of course welcome to your opinion.
However there still is no negatives to bringing Dual Specc to TBCC, especially to assist on the -many- realms that are straight up dying with little to no resources to do anything about it.
I get it, you don’t like wrath (For whatever reason). Pretty sure most people playing would rather play with dual specc than not, the only people I’ve ever seen rail against dual specc in TBCC are forum posters.
You just posted twice in a row claiming other people using dual spec will affect you, well, just because. There is only one way it could possibly affect you, guilds using it in raids. I think the claims that it would be heavily used is way overblown but a simple cool down would stop that. If it really affected you you would have included how.
Your free to your opinion, but adding dual spec causes multiple negative effects, from new min max requirements for raids, to devaluing hybrid specs that are designed to be decent at 2 roles (example, smite priest, decent healing decent dps, but not BiS for either, but able to be flexible based on boss fight needs)
It removes some of the artificial extenders that slow content consumption down because people no longer need to farm more if they are partaking in pvp and pve (which I already do) and will increase player burnout rates by making even more people into raid loggers.
I could go on, but these are some of the examples, so stating that it has no downsides to adding dual spec is not an opinion, it’s flat out wrong.
Honestly the ups or downsides don’t even matter because they won’t add it 
How long are yall gonna run the same defeated arguments out there? I mean, “dont use it and it wont affect you” has been wrong since the moment it was first uttered 6-7 months ago and you guys keep going back to that well like no one will notice.
Its a wholesale change to the game and since every subscriber is playing the same game it affects everyone. Its not a daily quest hub I can pass on or saying no to PvP. Its not optional even if I personally dont make use of it.
Just say youre lazy and entitled and Blizz has a history of catering to lazy and entitled players, even with TBC classic (boosts) and so you would like them to go the extra mile for you here and reward your lazy entitlement. This is the only argument that works for you because its the only one thats true.
Min-maxxers are going to ruin your gaming experience dual specc or not.
You can’t benchmark things based on what min-maxxers will do, because n omatter what you do they will find some way to completely destroy the game in some way or another.
I also highly disagree that it devalues hybrid speccs. It lets people actually try things out instead of being stuck not wanting to burn a ton of gold trying something then having to swap back. It also greatly frees up healers and tanks to be able to do things outside of tanking / healing raids or dungeons, and it also lets hybrid classes have a DPS specc and a Healing specc within free reach.
Artificial extenders how? It’s literally just a gold drain, unless you mean forcing people to waste 5 minutes running to their trainer and re-allocating in talents over and voer again.
There’s also zero evidence that it will cause burn out, if anything, being locked into an option and not being able to -do- other things causes more burn out than having more options. Literally the opposite of what your saying.
So, again so far there’s no detriments from what I can see to dual specc, and only positives.
People are already hardcore raid logging now without dual specc. It’s not like dual specc can make them raid log harder. 
And this is where the “we’d be forced to use dual spec” falls apart.
If you’re in a guild that min maxes now it’s because you want to be and it’s because you like min maxxing, having another tool to do so isn’t a problem. If you’re not in a guild that min maxes they won’t care about how you use dual spec, because wait for it, they don’t care about min maxxing.
Am I also lazy and entitled because I want LFD and LFR to solve my problems and am unwilling to transfer?
P.S. If only my crying could get me what I want…
I dunno, are you? We have to ask a couple of basic questions first. Do you deserve them and do you need it? Do you want LFD and LFR because you cant be bothered to put the effort in to get what you want? Ask yourself and find out - honesty helps alot.
In the case of dual specs the arguments presented failed the deserve and necessary prerequisites to actually consider it. Not even close really. Lost on day one. But nothing deters these braindeads because they got nothing to lose by whining about it everyday. Which is why they’ve spent more than half a year spinning their sophomoric pretense BS about things that dont matter AT ALL while telling you burden of proof isnt a real thing - the exception being if you dont want dual specs. Then call them gatekeepers after they accept the challenge and thoroughly negate your non argument with proof. What a bunch of babies really.
Dual specs are not deserved and not required. Case closed. TBC doesn’t need dual specs. Some people want dual specs because they cant be bothered and then stupidly states by extension that means TBC needs them. Worse yet they want to force that paradigm on everyone who plays even though we’re all supposed to be here because we wanted to go back to a time before funking dual specs.
Look, stick with the lazy entitled truth here. At least no one can call you a liar. Its so freaking obvious we can more or less smell it from a mile away. You cant come to grips that TBC just isnt for you and you should just go away and leave it to those who do but instead you want to remake TBC in your image - and you damn well cant get any more entitled then that.
That’s a ridiculous standard you totally made up in your own head. No one deserves anything in this game except a server to log into. You signed that agreement when you paid your sub. You agreed that blizzard can make any changes any time they wanted with no explanation or advanced notice. We’re just doing what the classic devs asked us to do when they announced that BC classic was not a no changes game. They asked the players for feed back on the changes they wanted. And they never said anything about deserving or needing them.