Reducing respec costs is a step in the right direction, but it still leaves players stuck in that respec loop. Dual-spec would give us the best of both worlds: affordability and convenience. That way, everybody truly wins.
The respec loop is a non issue if the cost isn’t prohibitive anymore. That’s the root of the problem.
Why dry your hands off with a flamethrower when a paper towel will do.
Save the trees!
I get your analogy, Nosorry, but it’s not just about the cost—it’s also the hassle of redoing action bars, keybinds, and macros every single time. Lowering the respec fee is like using a paper towel, sure—it’s simpler and solves part of the issue. But dual-spec is like installing a hand dryer; it saves more time and effort in the long run. The convenience of dual-spec means players can quickly adapt to what’s needed without the constant reconfiguration, which even a cheaper respec won’t address.
Like I said, I’m in favor of trying the simplest and least invasive option of simply lowering the cost first.
If we find that solves the issue and dual spec is completely unnecessary, then problem solved.
Or, just leave it how it is, and that’s not an issue either.
Nah, it can stay as is.
Its like arguing for cheaper epic riding.
We could also have hunter pets tank Uldaman in 2005, but that does not mean it is going to happen now. The community has changed so much, that not having a proper heal or tank spec, will be the end for many, as folks will not invite you to their groups.
I also don´t see why the game is easier if I can swap my spec? If I enter MC with a DPS warrior or a prot warrior then this doesn´t change the difficulty for me, all it does is change the accessibility.
So you want to add things that never existed in classic, but are against adding a QOL button to swap builds that did exist in Vanilla already? You may have missed that since you did not play it, but in Classic all classes had three talent tree´s and you could pay 50 gold to reset them. Afterwards you could put your points back in. You could do this as many times as you wanted to, if you had the gold.
All people want is that they can save two builds and swap between them. Nothing is changed, nothing is added or removed. People just want to use what is already in the game…
You obviously never played classic, but to think that you can heal in shadowform or that you can be the MT at Naxx with fury spec, are an all time low of trolling.
As if people wouldn´t already roll need on everything. Seriously, when was the last time you played on classic realms?
And what is so bad about that?
If you play warrior, then you should understand that you can tank and dps and should utilize both roles. My god, you retail heroes are such a nuisance to us classic veterans.
You never played in 2004, but try to lecture us about our game 24/7.
If you only like to play one role in classic, then you play a Hunter or Rogue, every other class has to adjust to the raid environment, it always was like that and always be.
Thats not true at all. No one cares about not having ideal spec or gear for leveling dungeons unless a group is planning on doing dungeon cleaves to power level.
From Aggrend’s twitter:
Actual vanilla classic isn’t for everyone, but there are a lot of people who love it. They’ve wanted this for a long time and I am glad we are able to give it to them. If SoD, or Cata, or Modern, or something else entirely is your jam, you do you!
https://x.com/AggrendWoW/status/1856814038346600737
“our game” lol
And not one cared that day…
One thing I want to bring up that I haven’t seen mentioned, and which I may just personally be confused about, but… Everyone keep talking about Prot Warriors and needing to respec to tank, etc.
Isn’t Fury-Prot the thing for warriors tanking? I thought going full Prot was actually considered a meme now because the bottom half of the prot tree is fairly useless in later game content and offers no extra survivability. Realistically why are people needing to respec so often, purely as warriors, if they’re speccing 0/31/20 or whatever the spread is? You have a lot of DPS talents and Bloodthirst already…
Pvp my friend
That’s valid, but not the point I was trying to address. I get the swapping from PvE to PvP specs, but people are consistently bringing up the point of swapping from DPS to Tank as a reason to have dual spec, when I just don’t see how that’s apparently an issue with what I believe was the current concept of warrior tanking.
Perfectly viable to pvp in a hybrid or pure pve spec.
Especially considering the pvp meta is literally pve boss fights in AV.
Everyone wants to believe they are in a duel championship with a $50k prize pool but that isnt the reality lmao.
I can’t believe I just wasted my time reading this lol. You are mad about a QOL change ruining the essence of classic? Then go play a private server. Blizzard spends way too much energy try to satisfy people like you while you pick any little bone you can with their decisions that most people enjoy.
Yes, I like playing a Rdruid but a hybrid spec is nice to have in my pocket for some WPVP. Thats game breaking? Log off then.
The community you are fighting for disagrees with you.
-Era is plagued with gdkp raiding
-Min maxing parse culture
-people are older and lazy and want convenience
-it makes it easier for people to get into pvp/ dungeons and raiding. Isn’t that what you classic purists want? More people doing content not less?
-this is what the 6th? iteration of vanilla. Get over it already. (Vanilla, classic, som, sod, hardcore and classic reboot2)
no changes. As soon as they started adding changes it went straight down hill. It starts with this and somehow always ends up at store mounts and wow token.
I’m pretty sure Classic purists just want less changes, even to the point of removing the changes that have already been made.
I’m not in that camp, but I’ll ask you
Would you have any issue simply lowering the respec cost to alleviate this issue?
That way people who want to PvE or PvP or tanks/healers that wanna solo can respec more freely without going broke.
Then the Vanilla gameplay isn’t changed essentially at all, dual spec is completely unnecessary, and everybody wins.
the big change is that you are able to easily go from fully optimized pvp spec to fully optimized pve spec whenever you want… in vanilla, you are NOT supposed to be able to do that. unless of course you are willing to pay the tax you may think incorrectly that this change doesn’t matter, but it does.
i don’t want that in MY vanilla. please go play SoD.