Druids need serious buffs for pvp in all phases

Ive played all 3. they are arguably the most fun classes to play being able to conquer any challenge if you use your entire kit. bad players staying bad asking for buffs

That is quite clearly not what he has said. If you’ve played all 3, you should know exactly what the problems are.

Paladin and Shaman are basically S tier in Classic. Is druid, too?

Druid is maybe B tier, at best, if we are being honest.

Ah my biggest fanboy.

You are truly just a troll on these forums, aren’t you?

the problems are people staring at warcraft logs and comparing themselves to other classes in one metric, DPS. hybrid classes are AMAZING to play if you arent a DPS clout chasing moron.

Nothing to do with logs. Never used them.

In purely PvP, Shaman and Paladin are infinitely stronger than Druid. Not even comparable in power level. So what about the hybrid argument now?

Druid is S tier in world pvp

And S tier as a flag Carrier

And is also really good in AB at back capping and spinning the flag

2 Likes

Running away doesn’t make anything S tier. You eventually have to kill the thing out in the world.

Frost mages are also S tier flag runners. They are also S tier in every form of pvp.

There are very few things druids can’t kill 1v1 using hit and run tactics

You refusing to acknowledge that doesn’t make it any less true

If there is no arbitrary boundary like a duel zone, druids simply won’t lose as long as they aren’t greedy

3 Likes

Rogues and mages can also do this while being significantly stronger in all aspects of the game.

So can shaman for that matter.

What is your point?

Warlocks, good rogues, and spris are unbeatable for druids in vanilla jsyk.

SOD may change that, but that’s literally the 3 hardest counters to druid. Rogue is barely winnable and its only if you have insane outplays + they screw up faps.

Shadow priest is unbeatable in 1v1 for pretty much everything in classic

And having a few classes that hard counter you doesn’t mean anything, every class has hard counters

1 Like

No other class is countered by that many things.

No

Because you have rock paper scissors. Druids can lose every matchup because, in theory, it requires outplay to win. Your mana bar is your timer and you can only go so far regardless of if you play deep balance, deep resto, or full feral.

Druids are not as wildly op as people make them out to be unless you play terribly and the druid plays passably well.

Also fun fact; Druid is druids hardest counter. #autoattacktodeath

1 Like

Bruh

Pretty much every class has about 3 really bad matchups

2 Likes

No class has 7 matchups that are loseable with 3 that are unwinnable unless the other player plays bad.

Druid has all that.

1 Like

You’re making stuff up. Good thing is that a bunch of people seem to understand that here

Define “losable”

Any matchup between any class is “losable”

1 Like

A druid has to outplay everything to a degree other classes don’t, and even then the victory isn’t sure.

That is the druid problem in era

Druids in classic are slow killers all about kiting an wilding down people.

If you want to play like a Rogue just make a Rogue.

3 Likes

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/264422653

Wdym define losable. There’s a vod right there that I streamed 6 years ago where, in theory, druid hard counters warrior. But in reality it’s extremely close regardless of what the paper theory says.

Druid loses to everything. Druids doesn’t beat anything definitively.