I know this is the druid forms and I will probably just get laughed at, I have to say that Druid is living the high life right now and it just makes me kinda sad.
Druid has Guardian which is currently the second top tank in m+ right now, with them doing massive pulls no other tank could dream of doing, and in PvP they are also really good because they have good self healing+mobility+utility+tanky.
Then there is Resto which I admit is not one of the top healers atm, but they are still amazing with utility the only they lack is dps to keep up with Holy and Disc. PvP they are actually pretty good for the same reasons that Guardian is good except for that they just do a ton of aoe healing.
Now we get to Balance who is top of M+, top of Raid, and super crazy in PvP even without convoke. I get letting a spec have it’s moment of glory but why this well, I think specs should be good at one or two things not all of them!
Feral is what I would consider balanced, may need a bit of buffs for m+ tho. They don’t do great in m+ but ST they actually aren’t to bad, make more specs balanced like feral .
Overall they wouldn’t even be that bad if the DPS couldn’t do as much burst healing as the Resto, or the Guardian being able to burst as much as the DPS. Well my rant is over, feel free to make fun of me now for “git gud” as some of the other class forums like to say when someone makes a post like this. Cheers!
Ask me how I know. If it’s not a pvp gripe then get over it in pve be glad your buddies are there to help dont cry for nerfs you might not be able to do the content then.
Touched me everywhere with every spec and at every place I fought them, that’s how I came to this conclusion.
I do, but as I stated above they are even good without Convoke.
Not really, they have immunity to slows, have pretty good ST throughput and cd, and on top of that have good utility.
How?
I was posting in terms of m+ and pvp, which you would see if you didn’t just read the title and get defensive.
So it’s ok for me to sit there and watch another spec get all the damage, healing, and defensives while poor destro lock is over there with not even half what druid has all together? Seems like you’re a bit biased since, hmm idk, you’re a druid and didn’t even read the post.
You are agreeing that druid is so well off that if they were nerfed we couldn’t do content? I’m baffled that people think this way.
Bit contradictory, but you’re not “so well off” if a nerf makes it so you can’t do things. Being so well off is that if taking a nerf, you’re still able to be competitive.
I never said nerf them to where they can’t do content, just need to tone them down a bit or tone other classes up.
And this is what I want, but all 4 specs are on the mid to upper side of m+ and pvp.
I knew this would happen, people who can’t defend things just resort to insulting. I actually predicted this in my post, but now your next response will just still be calling me a troll. Please come back with actual conversation if you do respond.
I give your response a 4/10 as it was unoriginal and resorted to insults instead of a meaningful conversation.
So Guardian Druid is 2nd in Raids, and actually showing as 3rd in M+. That averages them out to be sitting at about the 67% mark. Floating around the upper mid. But below the “upper end”
Balance is showing 2nd in Raids as well, and 1st in M+. Puts them at the 98% mark
Feral is looking to be about the 20th for raids, and 18th in M+, putting them around the 21% mark on average
Resto is 5th in M+ and 6th in Raids. Puts them around the 25% mark
On average, the Druid class is sitting around 53% mark. Middle of the pack as a whole. Fairly balanced. There’s your counter argument
Someone mentioned looking at balance druids damage done on each boss encounter in raid. Turns out theres 1 encounter where they are so far ahead of the rest that it puts them on top in total, while they on all the other bosses are just above middle.
If 9.1 doesnt bring a raid boss with absurd amounts of adds, and adding the nerfs to balance leggo, balance druid will be below middle of the pack dps and fotm players will find their mages again.
No im saying that on most bosses, except the one with loads of adds, they are already average dps. Its the uncapped aoe (with a huge radius) that lets them do good on lots of adds.
When they are already mediocre on ST dps and getting the massive BOAT leggo nerf they will actually drop down among the bottom feeders of ST dps in raids. (at least NF wich has so much of the dps comming from the combo of Incarn/BOAT/Convoke)
Man this hits it. People in BG’s keep asking me why i’m not running boomkin because of god level burst. But in reality, Feral should be the bar for every spec. They’ve got decent burst and great sustained damage. It’s not that feral is bad, but it’s that other specs and classes are broken.
No it’s the Council of Blood encounter usually on Mythic. If you choose to kill Nik last, he summons a ton of spread out adds, and there is no spec in the game that can hold a candle to Boomkin in spread consistent aoe. They pad heavily on that phase of the fight which puts them far far far ahead of the other specs and skews the overall CN rankings.
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