look at the top tanks on raider io. The top druid is #42. I think druids are the worst M+ tanks right now. It’s too much work to reroll. fml.
I have timed everything on 10+. I’m struggling hard w/ 12+ this week. KR 12+ was bs, I just immediately die within a global @ 430 iLVL, and healer calling me squishy.
I mean, KR 12 hurts every tank on fort and grevious lol. I’m not setting a foot in there this week as a tank.
Druids have the highest representation of any class in high mythic+ keys - higher even than rogues. Yes, most of them choose to go as the healer rather than the tank, but this isn’t a reason to make sure they’re the best tank, too.
Just reroll resto and win?
Why are you comparing across classes and not specs? Look at tanking representation across M+, not classes.
I know what you mean about everything hitting a lot harder this week. It was like that the first fortified week also.
I have had to make some changes to my rotation and talents to compensate for the keys at the moment until we start getting back up in the higher iLevel and more stat specific targeted gear I had last season.
One thing you want to check out is starting a large pull with Survival Instincts to give you a chance to build some Iron Fur stacks at the beginning. Also, take an azerite trait on a couple pieces of gear for Masterful Instincts for the extra mastery after it wears off. Put the raid tanking essence in your major slot and put the Vision of Perfection essence in your minor slot. Make use of the raid essences short cooldown and pop it when you feel like you will need to chain CD’s for something. You should have another pull with Barkskin + Frenzied Regen right off the bat and use at least one azerite trait for Frenzied Regen to extend it when you mangle. It helps to get the most out of the healing, especially if you get a mangle proc during it.
For another pack after that if you are lacking CD’s take the talent Incarnation: Guardian of Ursoc, and abuse that unlimited Thrash + Earthwarden on the pack you pull while stacking Iron Fur.
If you run out of all of those CD’s you can reshapeshift right before you pull and immediately pop Frenzied Regen + Vortex and kite a bit while you build Iron Fur stacks and generally stay out of immediate melee range of the mobs if possible.
This is not a build I think that will be ideal later in the season, but so far it has filled some of the gaps in mitigation I need to cover for now. I’m still experimenting to see what I can get to work better with my needs, but this is what I’m currently using.
People can easily switch between specs; switching to a new class is not as easy. I suspect part of the reason druid is below average in tank popularity is because, once you take out all the druids who decide to heal in mythic+ as the most dominant healing class, there aren’t a lot of druids left to tank, relatively speaking.
Nah i think bears seem to be feeling quite strong since the last round of buffs. The worst tank right now seems to be DH by a long shot
quite fine how? in 10+?
I’m having troubles in some 12+ this week.
its like either i use a gcd to get threat or i use a gcd to pop a survival cd.
either way some packs feel impossible, then i watch a warrior stream making 18+ look easier than my 12+ run.
I’m sure he is a more skilled player than myself, but is he so much more skilled idk?
I want to tank, I tried healing and it’s boring in pve. pvp healing is alright, because you can’t die, I guess I like feeling like I can take a hit, so that’s why I prefer tanking.
When I timed a 11+, everyone thought I tanked crazy because I’m literally flying around the screen kitting any pull with more than two mobs. avoiding most of the damage by movement. Though they said it was a good strat since we were moving fast.
then I turn on a warrior tanking 18+ video and the warrior is sitting there face tanking every pull.
like idk wtf already. lol…
I unsubbed in anger today, but I’ll stick around to see if I can figure it out before my time expires.
If the 5 mans require raid gear to compete I’ll also be pretty turned off. not interested in farming mythic raids.
Hey I was in your 12 KR key Haha
You are overthinking tanking quite a bit. You are not going to be tanking as easily or smoothly as people who are already running 18+ keys, especially this week. One of the reasons is that those people basically practice their strats a lot more and running a plethora of keys everyday.
It’s the same concept as the more you run a raid the better you get at it.
Also, to be fair it is not always your fault when keys don’t go smoothly, as it is a team sport. Your DPS and Healers are just as important, because they can help you avoid a lot of unnecessary damage with CC and interruptions.
Finally, as long as the keys get done on time, then your performance was adequate.
hum, you have that backward.
if really easy to pick up another class doing the same role.
but switching to a completely different role require changing your entire mindset…
What? I’m there for group support as a tank, when I run a healer I am group support and if I played dps, I’d still be group support. Instanced content is a team effort, sometimes the boomkin or spriest throws out a couple heals. Sometimes the Fury or havoc taunts a mob and pops a cd. The dk sacrifices RP to BR someone.
The only mindset in grouped content is teamwork. Doesn’t matter if your main goal is stability, speed or triage.
Yeah but who cares? Druid is already the most broken class. Why should they also be a good tank class?
They are a good tank class, now. Not meta, but good.
Sure, I wouldn’t know because I’ve never touched on playing Tank druid, only tanks I play Monk DK and Warrior.
But it kinda irks me when a Druid is whining and asking for buffs when they’re already the most versatile and over-all best class in the game. Does druid really need to be able to do EVERYTHING at the very best?
I’ve had several good Druid tanks this season. I don’t think they are weak.
While I agree with this sentiment, no tank or healer should be gimped in M+. It doesn’t help anyone.
This week has a way of taking a tank from 100-0 really fast. Ive been deleted several times in the blink of an eye at 434ilvl.
Just a rough week my dude.
So you complained in the druid forums, got told it’s not the spec, it’s you, and ran to another forum?
Your traits are crap. Your essences are crap. Your play is very subpar. 1.2 trinkets are crap. You don’t have an agi gem.
Druids are tanking significantly higher keys and timing them, and we’re still very early into the season. So why is your assumption that you struggling in low-mid keys is the spec, not you?
I mean, yes? And he has significantly better gear. And he is more optimized. And I’m willing to bet he’s running with a set group using coms.
If you have to kite when you are handling more than two mobs in literally any dungeon, it is not the spec at fault.
Mate. It is. You. You are. The problem.
They are a good tank.
Why should any spec be weak just because other specs are “too strong”?
All druids should not be punished because some specs are “too strong”.