Druid miss and dodge problems

So after doing some classic research I’m sure that druids are missing and being dodged from melee when they shouldn’t be.

I’m level 22 and am missing and being dodged by mods 5 and 6 levels below me, about 20% of the time and even from behind and it’s extremely frustrating.

Out of curiosity I tried a mob 7 levels below me, grey mob, and i didn’t miss or get dodged once and the amount of time it took to kill that mob was just a couple seconds, whereas the mob 6 levels below took me around 12 seconds to kill.

Out of frustration i tried leveling up my weapon skill, even though there’s plenty of data that says we dont need to level weapon skills because in any form, we’re capped.

So there is definitely something wrong here.

Can a blue please respond? Is this kbiwn and already being addressed? Thanks!

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LOl and thats is why guys like me are on top of the food chain right now!! Took me a while to figure this one out back in vanilla but its one of those things that, well you need to figure it out on your own son!

Just keep playing dude, you have a 1 second attack speed with cat and you are about to get some good cat abilities at 24 and 26.
Once you can use bleeds it’s all smooth sailing, fast kills and no downtime when you rejuv on your way to the next mob after a couple of kills.
Don’t go down the path of paralysis by analysis.

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Well said, thank you!

Very cryptic.

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Might be a good question for the Druid Classic discord #feral channel. The top druid theorycrafters reside there.

I’ve had some cases where my finishing moves would fail to land 5-6+ times in a row even on enemies lower lvl than me. I don’t know if that’s just how the game be or if it’s a bug.

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Are you implying that timing of my abilities has an effect on miss and dodge chances?

I noticed the same thing on my Druid while I was leveling a few alts.

Not sure the full truth of it, but I’ve seen some people suggesting that weapon skill is currently affecting Druid forms where it shouldn’t be right now in Classic.

I feel I have been missing more than usual as well.

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RNGeezus can be a real jerk sometimes.

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I have a theory (joke) that for every combo point my finishing moves have an X amount of extra miss attached to them.

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Have you looked into weapon level? I’m not sure but that might play a factor even when in bear/cat form. I have a 14 druid and by habit keep my weapon level on par with my level so I really don’t know if this is what is going on. And if that is the case, is that a new bug? Or was this a thing in Vanilla? I can’t remember… Vanilla I was resto.

Nope, you’re missing like normal. Some other druids are trying to claim weapon hit skills are affecting forms, but have zero proof, and testing it myself shows no difference. I can equip a staff that i have 1/x skill with and see no difference to my 2h mace skill which is close to my actual skill lvl cap.

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Ya, I couldn’t say either way so that’s why I was asking :heart_eyes: I haven’t seen my 14 druid missing too often tho either. Buuut he’s only 14. Do you know if this was how it was for ferals back in Vanilla?

Haven’t played a druid yet but, I can tell you that my rogue misses like crazy (even with extra hit) and so does my warrior. Was tanking on my warrior in a dungeon with mobs that are 3 levels lower than I am with maxed weapon skill for my level and there are many pulls that start out with, Parry Parry Miss Dodge Parry. My priest gets resisted on mobs 5 levels lower as well so this all seems normal.

I’ve noticed on every class I’ve played there are times in melee when a seemingly near impossible string of misses, dodges, parries occurs.

Sometimes it’s just one in a million RNG, sometimes it’s mobs activating defensive abilities, and there’s probably other stuff I’m not aware of.

I can’t say I’ve noticed any real difference between my druid, rogue, or pally.

I think the real problem is people just notice them more on a 1.0 sec atk speed form.

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Ya, that could be true.

Lol I was playing my paladin the other day and had a boar parry me twice in a row, dodge and parry me again. I finally hit him on my 5th swing.

Felt like Saurfang fighting Sylvanas.