Dreamsurge Overgrowth shouldn't be put up for vote

Currently Dreamsurge Lone Wolves is beating Dreamsurge Overgrowth by a lot and is about to be up in a minute. AFAIK Dreamsurge Overgrowth is all the buffs at once, so why are people allowed to vote to opt out of all the buffs except one? If you vote against Overgrowth you should be auto-b& from the game for griefing. Overgrowth shouldn’t even be an option you can vote on, it should just happen, or if it is put up for a vote and it loses then the vote should simply be overruled.

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That’s not how voting works.

Well unless you live in certain countries

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It is literally unethical to vote against Dreamsurge Overgrowth; it’s objectively the best Dreamsurge buff because it’s all the buffs at once. If you vote against it, you aren’t really voting for Dreamsurge Lone Wolves (which would also be provided by Overgrowth), you’re just voting against everything else, for no reason. Voters are often just wrong about things. They were wrong about gay marriage (which is why the Supreme Court had to legalize it) and they’re wrong about Dreamsurge Overgrowth apparently

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That sure is… A take

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It’s not required to click on whatever one everyone else is.

And comparing it to legalizing marriage for everyone shows already where you’re really trying to go with this thread.

You played your hand too early. You gotta push it to at least the fourth post before you drop the troll bait, geez.

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It’s actually a great comparison. Gay marriage is a net positive for society because it benefits gay people a lot and does not affect any rational people who don’t want to marry a member of the same sex; there’s no benefit to anyone to have it not be legal, just like how there’s no benefit to anyone to not have Dreamsurge Overgrowth win.

The game should be designed in such a way that the ignorance or malice of other players can’t easily make the game worse for everyone, like it is right now with people voting for Dreamsurge Dreamfall instead of Dreamsurge Learnings (although you could make a case that Dreamfall is better for some people, unlike Lone Wolves vs. Overgrowth because in that case Overgrowth is objectively better)

Blizzard is the one who gave the option in the first place. It isn’t like the content will suddenly become unbeatable if you don’t have your buffs and if so, invest more points into your L2P skillset.

It isn’t about skills or whatever. When Dreamsurge Magpies is up you get twice as much gold from the world quests that give gold (and there are two: the raft quest and the salamanther hides quest), and when Dreamsurge Learnings is up you get a 50 percent buff to all rep gains (including with previous expansion reps, if you can find a way to get the rep while being in Thaldraszus or Valdrakken, like through commendations/insignias, etc.). Both of those could’ve been up at the same time, along with the one people actually voted for and every other buff, if people voted for Overgrowth.

Also because the rep buff applies even when you’re in Valdrakken, I’m waiting for Learnings to come up before turning in Aiding the Accord on my less played alts

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I’m aware of the logic. You can take your stance to the (dumb) logical extreme which is what is why you are being argued. By your own logic, radicals can (and will/do) argue their “logic” is right and why the other side needs to not have a vote. They’ll use the same terminology as you do and they’ll believe their own highly biased “truths” too.

Democracy means sometimes “dumb” decisions get made. Plain and simple.

Do you even hear yourself right now?

It’s a game, dude. This isn’t ethics. It’s just a stupid buff no one cares about. Calm down.

Good lord, the forums today is like someone let the monkeys out of the zoo.

:woman_facepalming:t4:

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It is about ethics. If you vote against Overgrowth you’re voting against the greater good for no personal benefit whatsoever, which is actually more evil than voting against it for your personal benefit. It’s like the Joker demanding that the crime families of Gotham give him half of their money and then lighting it on fire in The Dark Knight, exept it’s even worse than that because at least in that case the other bad guys had less money.

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No. It isn’t. The insanity in thinking anyone cares about useless buffs in a video game to call it “ethical” or not is just astounding.

Go outside. Stop trolling.

Guess the Lightbulb isn’t on in this one.

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It is about ethics actually; there’s no rule that says things can only be matters of ethics if they’re x level of serious. “Ethics” is just another word for “moral philosophy” and voting against letting other people have good things that don’t cost anyone anything is immoral

Except you forget the part about morals and ethics is that theyre beliefs… Not some intrinsic truth from on high. And like beliefs they are not universally shared.

And the fact that the majority has voted this way means they also don’t feel that way.

So neat.

Even if that were true, griefing is against the code of conduct and voting against Overgrowth is probably the most clear-cut example of griefing you could ever see in-game; the problem is that you can’t report the people doing it because the game doesn’t tell you who they are

There is zero morality to a stupid useless buff no one cares about in a video game.

This is NOT griefing. It is NOT stopping you from playing the game. My god.

My brain cells can’t take much more. I’m out.

Turn the lightbulb ON this time and PLEASE go get some air.

Well, Halloween.

At my work it’s usually full moons when stuff goes sideways.

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Go ahead and report someone for griefing because they’re using an in-game system designed by Blizzard the way Blizzard designed it to be used, simply because you don’t like it. See how far that takes ya, pal.

Or, follow me here… you could grow up.

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